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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?

sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 14, 2011 10:02AM
Hey folks,

Sorry in advance for the long post. Well, it appears that many of us are in the same boat when it comes to having interlocks on our cars/trucks. I'm in NC, so my provider is Monitech (only provider in NC). I had an issue with my device "Quick-Test" I wanted to get some opinions on for those with experience in dealing with Monitech/DMV, etc.

Anyway, way back in summer, soon after my device was installed (but before I was convicted), I got a "fail" for a startup test, which locked me out for 5 minutes. However, 30 minutes later, after drinking/rinsing with water, I re-took the test and got a "pass" (not a "warn" or anything, just regular pass). When I got my interlock installed, the technician made a point to say if you do get a "fail" not to freak out, and that if you rinse, etc. and get a "pass" it looks a lot better for you.

I called the event into Monitech the next morning because it was after 5:30 and their customer service line was closed for the day, and it didn't seem worthy of an emergency call. The customer service rep said that "I should be fine" and she noted that I had called the even in.

When I got it calibrated for the first time (a bit less than 2 months later), the technician made no mention of the "fail," even though on my service log report (which they give you ever time you get the device serviced), there is one "fail." My device was replaced at this appointment with another device (same model type).

I have had the device for 6 months since the "fail" issue. I have not received any notices or heard anything from Monitech or DMV, either through mail or at service appointments (actually, the last technician I had told me that "you'd know it" if you had a violation at the service appointment-additional paperwork, etc.). Has anyone been in the same position (just ONE "fail" followed by a "pass" soon afterward) and still gotten a Notice of Non-Compliance or other Notice of Violation? I'll add that it seems like most of the people I've seen online who have gotten a violation notice from DMV have had more than one "fail" or other violation with the device, not just one.

Also, if you have been served with a violation, what is the sequence of events? Did Monitech staff tell you about the violation at your service appointment? Did you get paperwork from Monitech during your appointment (or soon after in the mail) saying you had a violation? What exactly happened in your experience?

Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/24/2011 11:26AM by Aldo_Raine.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 14, 2011 12:28PM
I have had a couple warns and 2 fail's, a high one and a rolling test fail. The high one for alcohol failure (not going to explain the story) and the other from a rolling test. Every time i blew it said error. I blew the maximum amount of times, all errors, then a fail. I pulled over, turned off my car, waited few minutes, reset the interlock, and did a new test and passed. When i get an error during a rolling re-test, i freak out which makes me blow too hard and gives me more errors. I do it every time i get one but most of the time i just calm down and try again and i pass. Anyways, I went for an app. today and i said to the guy " i am freaking out about the DMV sending me a letter telling me my time having the interlock is going to be revoked because of the fails or warns." he said, "If you haven't filled out papers having to explain yourself about the warns and fails for ALCOHOL, not clean warns or fails were you didn't register anything, then you should be fine." Meaning if you had a clean fail or warning like i did with the rolling re-test, i don't think it is recorded as a violation. I have 2 more months until i get the interlock off. We'll see if monotech was right about what they said. Hopefully i don't receive a letter from now until i get it off. I will keep you posted.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 23, 2011 03:09PM
BlueMarie:

Thank you for your post. I had some drinks late last night and thought I had allowed adequate time for the alcohol to leave my system before blowing into the wretched device. I apparently miscalculated and had my first "fail". I imagine this is a real fail, although not at the level that requires an early recall. What is a "clean" fail that you mentioned?

I, too, am petrified about this and am afraid of having my resricted license revoked and, worse, having to start over with the device. Like you, I always have "invalid samples" before getting a "pass". Each time, I get more stressed and anxious making it harder to breathe and having more errors.

This device is hell - I can't bear having it drag on any longer than absolutely necessary.

Please let me know how things turn(ed) out for you. I certainly wish you, and all of us, the best...
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
December 30, 2012 03:40PM
hot smileyconfused smiley I BLEW A FAIL the next morning after drinking, six months later i recieved a letter stating i had to have a hearing on such and such date, the day i went they took mine for a year, said i had 10 more days to drive then i had to turn in for a year. HORRIBLE, WHY, THIS WAS THE NEXT DAY I WASN'T BUZZED I WAS FINE, IT'S A DISCRIMINATION. YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE DRIVE THE NEXT DAY AFTER DRINKING AND THINGS ARE JUST FINE, NOOOOO NOT ONCE YOU HAVE A STUPID INTERLOCK DEVICE......I AM SO PIIISSSSEEEEDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 11, 2013 06:17AM
monitechinterlockksaboutmoney

You aren't okay to drive. That's the part you aren't getting. It's not out to get you -- it's out to stop you from getting other people.

Those trying to move on and learn are doing well. You're having trouble because you still need help with your drinking, your knowledge of how it effects you including response time, and how to stop or control it. You don't feel buzzed because you are a heavy drinker so your system no longer registers it by the next day. But you have alcohol in your system and it's effecting you. If you go to your probation officer they can help with ideas of how to cut back on your drinking and manage it more.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 14, 2011 02:16PM
Thanks for the info, bluemarie. Please do keep us posted, I will do the same.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 17, 2011 01:15PM
Aldo_Raine
I am not to sure how things work in NC. If the fail is under a certain limit then you have nothing to worry about. I beleive you are allowed so many fails before they do something. One thing to do is ask your provider what the limit is on fails that get reported or check DMV'S website. Always make sure your address is correct with DMV as well so if they do send you something you'll get it. Hope this helps. Good luck.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 17, 2011 03:39PM
Thanks for your input, 1320AZ. The issue is that in North Carolina, the interlock rules are somewhat foggy, to the average Joe/Jane. While I believe that the DMV is legally able to revoke someone's driving privilege/license (or whatever circumstances one is operating under who is participating in the interlock program) for really any violation (be it BAC level(s) as measured by the device that are above the set threshold when taking a test, failure to take a rolling test or stop engine test when obliged to do so, etc.), this is apparently not always the case, and it's unclear as to when exactly DMV acts on non-compliance reports, etc., depending on someone's specific circumstance.

Hence, the dialogue we're (I am, at least) hoping to establish here on this site about what the *specific* process(es) is that people have been through with any issues concern the interlock and DMV. There is a gray line out there that is difficult to decipher and navigate, and it helps to have a forum like this to be able to discuss our concerns and potential outcomes, given our circumstances.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 18, 2011 11:29AM
I understand. Im sorry i could not be of any help to you.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 21, 2011 04:21AM
It's no problem, 1320AZ, I appreciate your pointers. I'm squared away in the correct address regard, etc.

Just a quick update to say I had an uneventful service appointment last week. Still nothing from Monitech or DMV (by mail or word from service technicians, etc.). I'll keep updating this thread, and I hope others will, too (bluemarie and anyone else who has experience with these issues as described in the thread title/first post).
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 23, 2011 06:30AM
You know what sucks the most about this? I dread getting the mail every day for fear I'll have something on DMV letterhead. The worry/anxiety is almost constant. Any input on past experiences with Monitech/DMV as described above is welcome in this thread!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 23, 2011 11:00AM
Aldo and Friends:

I am so happy to find this thread as I am dealing with DWI/Monitech issues. Two months after having this dreaded device installed, I had my first "Fail" test this morning. I am driving on a restricted license until I can get my license restored in July; the device will be on my car until Dec. as it now stands. I am petrified about what the penalty may be as I just want to "do my time" and move on. I had some drinks late last night and thought I was OK to start the car this morning (if I hadn't thought I was OK, I obviously wouldn't have tried to start the car). Obviously I wasn't as I received the "Fail" messsage with a 5-minute lock-out. I did not attempt to restart the car as I thought I was OK the first time and didn't want repeat "fails" on my report. After reading this thread, I'm thinking that may have been a mistake. I was so freaked out, I called Monitech and the DMV to confess my "sin" (maybe I was worse off than I thought, based on that!).

I'm guessing that my BAC was between .04 and 08% as I did not get a "Warn" message" (which I'm guessing would be <.04) or an "Early Recall" message (which apparently indicates a .08% or higher).

Now I'm a wreck worrying about what will happen next from the DMV. Will they revoke my license for this? My understanding is that I will have to write an explanation at my next Monitech check-in that will be submitted to the DMV and a court hearing could be ordered. I guess this is what you were asking, Aldo.

Any other comments regarding this? I'm really nervous and distraught...

Thanks, all.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 23, 2011 11:55AM
Hey YoMaMa,

First, let me say that I can sympathize completely with what you're feeling right now. It is no fun to shoulder that kind of worry burden, and the uncertainty makes it much worse. Speaking from my past experience, despite the initial shock, the knowledge of my inevitable DUI conviction was easier for me to digest than potential interlock issues for just that reason-I knew where I stood. With the interlock, I really don't, and that's what makes it so unsettling.

I am not entirely sure what happened in my case (the 'fail' followed by the 'pass') other than I believe that I either a) had some kind of residual mouth or stomach(?) contamination that caused the fail-I just go the device installed and wasn't accustomed to how sensitive it was(is), b) the car parked directly in front of me was being worked on and there was a strong odor of gas/other fumes that were in my car's cabin, and/or c) the device itself was malfunctioning-it was replaced with another unit of the same model type at my first calibration/download appointment. I have read that the technology used in the devices is not foolproof, despite what the interlock provider's insistence that it is. Regardless, as I posted, the Monitech technician did not mention the fail at my first appointment (even though a "fail" appears on the 1-page report print-out you're given at each monitoring appointment). I was not given any paperwork to fill out to explain the fail, either (as bluemarie alluded to in her reply to me).

While I personally think it was honest and responsible for you to have called both Monitech and the DMV to report the fail, I honestly don't know how that will be interpreted by them. When you made those calls, was that when you were told that you would have to write an explanation for the 'fail' at your next download/calibration appointment, or did you find that out from someone else or the internet (that's an important detail for me-please answer if/when you can).

Most of the instances I've read about that have resulted in Non-Compliance Reports/Revocation of Driving Privileges (or whatever the official terminology is) have involved more than one fail. I say 'most' because I have no idea whether or not that's actually the case because I am no expert-just going on internet research (which can make worrying worse, mind you) and hearing from people I've known to have interlocks in NC (the few). Some have said that they got a 'fail,' but nothing ultimately ended up happening. So, this may mean that you were smart not to try to start the car again. Believe me, I was shitting bricks when I took the start test after my fail, and didn't drive afterward after passing because I wanted to report it to Monitech first thing before I potentially risked getting another.

While I know that it really, really sucks sweating this out, ultimately, this will pass one way or another, and you'll be done with it eventually. I know that's little comfort now, but try to put things in broad perspective-it helps me sometimes with the worrying.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 23, 2011 01:14PM
Aldo:

You are a HUGE help and I thank you so much for your response. BTW, I also live in NC.
I completely understand about DUI vs Monitech - it's exactly as you say. You know where you are with a DUI; the device is another story. I'm totally at its mercy and am totally paranoid about it and everything associated with Monitech. The stress, embarrassment, and other negative aspects of the device are definitely the worst part of all of this. Like BlueMarie, I also can never get an immediate "pass" reading; I always get "invalid samples" and that scares me. Then I get more stressed and have more difficulty blowing into the stupid thing. At my first monitoring, my report had >600 "faults"; when I asked how to avoid that, they told me not to make so many mistakes.

I'm hoping to explain that I had drinks late last night, went to bed, and woke up thinking the alcohol was out of my system. Thank God it didn't warrant an early recall due to being >.08. I'll try to explain that I guess that my metabolism has slowed with age (I'm nearly 60) and alcohol apparently stays around longer in me than it used to. I've already made an enemy of the M'tech tecnician with my complaints about him - not too smart. It's really unlike me, but their errors have cost me time and money and they know how much power they wield via their reports to the DMV. I'm hoping that 1 fail won't cost me to lose my limited driving privileges or add more time to my device sentence, but I realize that it could. I guess with a restricted license, I'm allowed NO alcohol and the fail reading would indicate something greater than .04. I don't have my monitoring appt. until the end of March - can't wait to see the smirk on that guy's face when he uncovers my "fail". I'll be afraid to go to the mailbox after that for sure; if I see something from the DMV, I'll probably have a stroke - literally.

Funny you asked about how I received the little information that I did. I first called Monitech and told them the story; the lady had me go check to see if I had a early recall message, but I didn't (I think she was disappointed). When I asked her what I could expect from this, she basically just told me that it would be addressed at my next monitoring appt. and that I should read page 12 of the manual where it states not to drink within 24 hours of taking the test. I asked about calling the DMV and she gave me the number. I spoke with a police officer at the DMV who was more helpful; she is the one who told me I would have to write and submit an explantion of the incident at the monitoring appt. and that it would be submitted to the DMV and a court hearing could be ordered for me - so scary. I think M'tech really wants to keep us off guard to make mistakes. Paranoid, I know, but I really believe it's true. Maybe if I hadn't overreated/panicked/blabbed so quickly, I would have another explanation for the event...

Anyway, I also responded to the fellow from NM with the M'tech issues to report damage to my car that I (and others) attribute to the device installation. If you haven't seen it (you probably have as you have researched the 'net on this), "Bill" (one of the partners at a law firm near Charlotte, I think) wrote a very interesting article ~10 years ago that addresses the Monitech monitoring situation (see www.powmac.com); they are also collecting info. on false-positive M'tech device readings that have been reported to the DMV that threaten people's driving privileges. Your situation may be of interest as it appears to be a false-positive.

Thanks for everything - and stay smart!!

YMM
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 23, 2011 03:40PM
YMM-

Thank you for the additional information you promptly posted. I sincerely hope that things go your way as far as today's events are concerned. I'd like to think that there's some way your honesty/proactiveness won't be punished-in my mind, you ultimately did a good deed by calling in the 'fail.'

Please keep this thread updated as you receive new information, especially from Monitech and the DMV.

Good luck!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 24, 2011 10:50AM
Thanks, AR. I feel that honesty is the way to be - except probably with the DMV where everything is black/white. Probably a bad call in this case - like telling cops that you're drinking when they haven't asked.

I studied the M'tech manual all night for clues about what might be looming; nothing like a straight answer, of course, but I'll summarize and post the relevant statements later.

I'm afraid to be too optimistic that maybe I'm not completely doomed yet, but I don't want to kill myself with anxiety, either. The uncertainty - like what might eventually be lurking in the mailbox - is the worst!

Thanks again - be back later...
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 24, 2011 09:09AM
YMM-

I forgot to mention yesterday that I wouldn't worry too much about the "invalid sample" message you're getting. I've gotten plenty of those myself (mainly during the big cold spell in December/January). The Monitech technician told me those weren't a problem. Of course, the device's manual is written in a cryptic, intimidating way, and it isn't apparent in the manual that "invalid sample" readings aren't a big deal. The impression I've been given is that they're not.
I just had a call from a friend going through the Monitech program and she received a letter today stating that a Monitech computer was stolen from the technicians truck and that her personal data (SS#, DL#, Birthdate, etc.) was in the computer. They advised her to check with the credit bureaus and put on a Credit lock. She is not real happy about this and knows that it costs to unlock your credit when the time comes. This happened to her another time about 5 years ago with a different company and they paid for a 3 year coverage on identity theft. Has anyone else received this letter and if so, what are your thoughts on any action or phone contact you may make with Monitech concerning the matter?
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 28, 2011 12:15PM
Yo mama, I mean "clean fails" = no alcohol in your system just a true error fail. Like i said driving down the road and the interlock goes off for you to do your rolling retest and you blow too hard/ too soft and you get an error for you to try again. I think after like 3 error attempts during a rolling retest you get a fail. When they print out your report they know if you there was alcohol present or it was "clean" like what i had from blowing too hard during multiple attempts driving. On my report when it was printed out, the fail didn't even show up so i don't know.

When i had my high fail, the error light stayed solid and i had 3 days to take it to mono tech and get it reset. I never drove the car, just blew failed and didn't take another test until the next day. I payed, got it reset and left. I never filled out any papers for it. I don't know but i maybe didn't have to fill out papers because i didn't drive? I have only filled out one paper for a warn. And that was at the beginning.

For about a month i would get errors over and over again (before being able to start my car, in my driveway or wherever) before it would actually pass me because i guess i wasn't holding the button for long enough or whatever the problem was. Sadly i get paranoid and i feel like everyone can see me blowing into the thing and which makes me anxious and panic and made things worse. It's hard to just relax, take a breath, and try again, once you've done so many attempts in a row.

If you have some extra money, it would be a good idea to buy one of those portable breathalyzers to make sure you are clean before taking a test.

I have had the device for a year and 5 months now. I was screwed over after 6 months of having it. Thanks to my AWESOME lawyer who told me i had to have it put on to get driving privileges, which ended up being illegal and i never knew until 6 months later when i went to the DMV to get my license back. So the DMV wouldn't count the time.

Like someone said above, if you are continuously getting warns and fails then your going to have problems and more than likely have the device revoked.

I get the device off at the beginning of April. Again i will keep you updated from today until then!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
March 14, 2011 07:19AM
Hey all:

Just a thread bump to see if anyone has any updates, particularly bluemarie and YoMaMa. Any recent news?

I also have a question: when your time with the interlock has come to an end (when you get it installed, Monitech lists something to the effect of "expected end date," something to that effect, which is a year from the installation date in my case), do you need to get some sort of documentation from NCDMV before you get your license reinstated that says that you have satisfied the requirements of the interlock program? If not, is this something that Monitech provides? Or neither-is this a "no news is good news" type of situation? I am still a good few months from getting mine removed (assuming no future issues with DMV), but I want to plan ahead. I would hate to go to get it removed only to find out that I should have gotten documentation beforehand.

Thanks, and good luck, everyone!

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
March 16, 2011 12:54PM
HI!!

I am going through a similar situation.
My DMV non-compliance hearing is scheduled for March 29, 2011
Apparently on April 4, 2010 after I had a 0.00 BAC for over an hour of driving, I had a BAC reading .010 and .012--just 12 minutes later, then back to 0.00 for another 2 hours. I was unaware there was even an issue, bc my Monitech device never signaled a warning or error, just asked for re-test.
April 20, 2010 I went in for my monitor report and this is when I learned of the supposed non- compliance. The technician had me write up a report, about a paragraph, but I honestly did not have an explanation, so he told me to just write something about mouthwash. I thought that was the end of it.
Then, August 2010, I got a letter from the DMV stateing my license was scheduled to be revoked for a year due to non-compliance.

The only option was to request a DMV preliminary hearing. My license is valid only pending results of that hearing. My hearing is scheduled March 29, 2011. I am in the process of preparing my best defense, and am very anxious.
The only way to receive documentation from Monitech like the daily LOG of breath tests of the afternoon in question, was to send a letter to the DMV ( NC DMV, Driver License Hearing Unit, 3116 Mail Service Center, Raleigh NC 27699-3116) requesting a RELEASE FORM FOR IGNITION INTERLOCK DOCUMENTS, then the DMV sent me an authorization for release of information form to sign and send BACK to the DMV.
The DMV, then sent my release form to Monitech. Monitech then sent me copies of all my 60 day monitor reports, service reports and a couple pages of the daily LOG of breath tests from April 2, 2010. (They also charge 5 dollars for this service.)

Now, with all that being said,
My strategy at the hearing is to show my perfectly clean record of breath tests except for the one day in question when the amounts of .011 and .012 registered and then went back to 0.00 has got to be a fluke. I have found some research about consuming some bread products with yeast present may register a small BAC reading. Also asthma inhalers. The supervisor at the 1800 call center for Monitech told me the DMV has been sending out suspension letters to many many customers and they have not done this in the past so he suspects it is then trying something new. Maybe some repeat offenders or those who do attempt to still drink and drive will not fight back but us innocent ones will.
I refuse to lose my license over this incident.
I also went in for a job interview, was almost hired, but an this Non-compliance event (as described: alcohol consumption agreement non- compliance) was reported on my official driving record-- before I even had my hearing for it!!!! This prevented me from getting the job. I am determined to get this taken from my record.
will keep u posted on the outcome of the hearing and what to expect if u have to go through it.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 30, 2012 06:42AM
jezaka Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> HI!!
>
> I am going through a similar situation.
> My DMV non-compliance hearing is scheduled for
> March 29, 2011
> Apparently on April 4, 2010 after I had a 0.00 BAC
> for over an hour of driving, I had a BAC reading
> .010 and .012--just 12 minutes later, then back to
> 0.00 for another 2 hours. I was unaware there was
> even an issue, bc my Monitech device never
> signaled a warning or error, just asked for
> re-test.
> April 20, 2010 I went in for my monitor report and
> this is when I learned of the supposed non-
> compliance. The technician had me write up a
> report, about a paragraph, but I honestly did not
> have an explanation, so he told me to just write
> something about mouthwash. I thought that was the
> end of it.
> Then, August 2010, I got a letter from the DMV
> stateing my license was scheduled to be revoked
> for a year due to non-compliance.
>
> The only option was to request a DMV preliminary
> hearing. My license is valid only pending results
> of that hearing. My hearing is scheduled March 29,
> 2011. I am in the process of preparing my best
> defense, and am very anxious.
> The only way to receive documentation from
> Monitech like the daily LOG of breath tests of the
> afternoon in question, was to send a letter to the
> DMV ( NC DMV, Driver License Hearing Unit, 3116
> Mail Service Center, Raleigh NC 27699-3116)
> requesting a RELEASE FORM FOR IGNITION INTERLOCK
> DOCUMENTS, then the DMV sent me an authorization
> for release of information form to sign and send
> BACK to the DMV.
> The DMV, then sent my release form to Monitech.
> Monitech then sent me copies of all my 60 day
> monitor reports, service reports and a couple
> pages of the daily LOG of breath tests from April
> 2, 2010. (They also charge 5 dollars for this
> service.)
>
> Now, with all that being said,
> My strategy at the hearing is to show my perfectly
> clean record of breath tests except for the one
> day in question when the amounts of .011 and .012
> registered and then went back to 0.00 has got to
> be a fluke. I have found some research about
> consuming some bread products with yeast present
> may register a small BAC reading. Also asthma
> inhalers. The supervisor at the 1800 call center
> for Monitech told me the DMV has been sending out
> suspension letters to many many customers and they
> have not done this in the past so he suspects it
> is then trying something new. Maybe some repeat
> offenders or those who do attempt to still drink
> and drive will not fight back but us innocent ones
> will.
> I refuse to lose my license over this incident.
> I also went in for a job interview, was almost
> hired, but an this Non-compliance event (as
> described: alcohol consumption agreement non-
> compliance) was reported on my official driving
> record-- before I even had my hearing for it!!!!
> This prevented me from getting the job. I am
> determined to get this taken from my record.
> will keep u posted on the outcome of the hearing
> and what to expect if u have to go through it.


Jezka,

Were you on a 1 year restriction. That is what I am on and in the letter from the DMV about my interlock it states:

You must not drive a motor vehicle with an alchohol concentration equal to or greater than .004 for 3 years. That wouls be under that?
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
March 16, 2011 07:10PM
hey jezaka-

I'm sorry to hear about your impending hearing with DMV. I know it's got to be very stressful to prepare for that. But, it seems you like you're not too bent out of shape about it, which is a good thing. There's no sense in expecting the worst when things won't necessarily turn out that way.

Thank you very much for telling us about your experience and keeping us posted about how things turn out for you, as well as what to expect if in your situation with a hearing, and how that goes. Believe me, and as you probably have noticed, there is virtually no firsthand information out there about what happens when things don't go so well with interlocks. Most resources seem to be veiled advertisements for law firms or black/white rules with DMV (as YoMaMa posted above), so you're really doing us a service by keeping us informed about your outcome.

Good luck with it, and don't sweat it too much.

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
March 31, 2011 07:50AM
Hey YoMaMA-

I'm wondering how things went for you at your last monitoring appointment with Monitech. Please update us when you're able.

Thanks!

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 12, 2011 08:13PM
Hi any and all of us poor souls who must allow Monitech to dictate so many faucets of our lives.

I had my non-compliance hearing at the DMV on March 29, 2011.

It was terrible. It was horrible. Although the particular violation was from the April 2, 2010 afternoon, the Hearing Officer brought up any and all times where I may have a "hangover" and possibly blow a WARN on the initial breath test but not start the ignition... which is not a violation. But those occurances hurt me.

Well, she said because of those events, she would be unable to determine whether the other incidents of getting a .010 or .012 were due to mouth contaminents or from actual drinking since it is a 'pattern' of behavior.

We all know.. .00-.02 PASS (so if you get a .01, you do not KNOW you get that because the device reads PASS as if it were .00, called margin of error)
.02-.04WARN
.04-.above FAIL

I did consult with an attorney, but didn't bring him to the hearing. I should have. Probably half the questions she asked should not have been.

After the Hearing, she did not give me a verdict. Said I would have to check for a letter in the mail. I waited... 10 days later on a Friday afternoon, I received a letter from DMV Raleigh which stated in 7 days I would have to turn in my license and it will be suspended for a year. And after a year goes by, I will have to start my term over with Monitech.

The only way to keep fighting this is to file a motion to appeal in Superior Court in the County you reside.
Which is what I am doing.
And this time I do have an attorney.
If anyone has a Non-compliance Hearing scheduled, I recommend getting an attorney... look up Bill Powers in Charlotte and some of the work he has done specific to the Monitech model interlock device and the problems with .00-.02 registering as Pass because THAT IS THE MARGIN OF ERROR WITH THE DEVICE. The designers made it that way because it is impossible to eliminate fully other items in the air that can be detected as alcohol. I do not know why the DMV cannot take into account that maybe once a month or so something will occur that will cause a reading in the margin of error. Whether it be a bite from bread high in yeast, a puff from an asthma inhaler, a lingering scent or fragrance, an Antacid pill, Red Bull, etc. Any of these things and more could cause a small reading up to .02. Now if actual alcohol were ingested, the number would steadily rise. THEN there would be cause for Hearings and Suspensions.

I do not know exactly why I was unsuccessful at the Hearing. I brought up all of these points but I feel as though because I did admit that I do drink on rare occasions that cemented the decision and that I could not be trusted.
I never drove unless I received a PASS light, and yet, my license is being suspended. The appeal will be filed this week, but it could take months for the case to be heard. And, I am nervous. I am going to have to move to an urban city area and ditch the idea of a car for a few years and let this Monitech thing run its course.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 12, 2011 09:00PM
I want to add, the "hangover" mornings, when I would blow a WARN, but not start the ignition are not in violation. On those days, few and far between I might add (like 3 in a year) I would wait several more hours, for a PASS and then drive.
When I pointed this fact out to the Hearing Officer, she said that because of those incidents, she was going to assume that IF I did NOT have Monitech, that I would have driven those mornings, wouldn't I have? She asks me.
And I say, well there is no way to predict what would or could have happened. But if I did not have Monitech, like you stated in the premise of this ASSUMPTION and somehow it could be known I had a BAC of WARN level like the morning you are referencing it would only be .02-.04 and that is not illegal for someone who DOES NOT have Monitech, so what is the point?

Her reply was that it IS HER job TO predict. I think this may have sealed the deal in, u guessed it, not my favor... there were other comments which were inappropriate on both sides.

So please people, get an attorney... do not answer questions like this esp in the way I did, which is perfectly correct but also completely dumb considering there is ONE hearing officer standing in the way of you and your privledge to drive. You do not know what kind of inner bias they may have.

ALSO- if you do drink... for Petes sake, wait 24 hours before trying to drive. Every one's body metabolizes differently. Even if you do not start the car on a WARN, Monitech 'knows'
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 12, 2011 09:12PM
ONE MORE THING....

During the course of my investigations... (which is taking up soooo much time + energy = money)

the software Monitech uses to record our daily lives was changed about a year or year and a half ago.... Right around the time low PASS reports and Client Response Sheets and Non-Compliance Reports.

This is why when you hear of other friends who have got several actual FAILs with no consequences (or maybe a $35.00 fine as it used to be, as I hear), those were the old days, this is some new recording and reporting method.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 15, 2012 01:12PM
The non-compliance readings were back in June and I got notified the first week in November that my license would be suspended. I requested the hearing so that at least lets you keep your license while you are waiting for the hearing. My interlock was due to come off in early December and DMV said to go ahead and get it removed. I got notified the week before Christmas that my hearing would be the first week in January. From all the rumors I had expected to get a notice that it would be 3-6 months before the hearing. I think some of the posts are probably true that the people with 3-year and 7-year interlocks may be treated differently. My guess is they probably have their hearings quicker because DMV wants to go ahead and suspend their license and get them off the road if they suspect they are drinking and driving. In my case, since the interlock had already been removed I think they probably wanted that face-to-face interview quickly to see exactly what was going on since the interlock was no longer on to monitor my driving.

Since your hearing isn't until June, my advice would be to just be sure you get data from Monitech for each of the occurrences in the download they questioned and have an explaination for each one and for anything else that is in bold print in the violation summary for that 2-month period. Also, every time you go for future downloads, get the tech to let you know if there were any violations and see if you can send in a report with it that day. Since you only have it on for a year and they've put your hearing off until June then they apparently don't consider you much of a risk.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 15, 2012 01:42PM
Congrats on keeping your license! Did you keep a copy of what you put on your non compliance report before you gave it to your tech at your download? I take it you were on a .000 restriction to get called in for readings that low. I ask because I just find it strange how the DMV picks and chooses who it calls in for a hearing.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 07, 2011 11:10AM
Hello everyone,
I got my 1st BAC fail today and no warns at all since installed in November. I could not tell you why I failed, shocked the hell out me. It bothered me so bad I was scared to blow again.(Didn't want any multiple fails) I have a new Bactrack S70 that works great and always shows accurate readings according to what I drink. First thing I did was come in the house and blew in the Bactrack and it showed 00.0 bac level. I know these hand held ones are not truely accurate, but for me to get a fail without any drinking is totally wrong. Stomach is a little bothered from eating to much fruit the night before and had a couple of hotdogs earlier today. If that was a problem Bactrack should have shown it as well...Thank God no service light.
Monitec service date set for the 15th of this month. Not sure what to expect!

P.S. 2nd thing I did was to find this sight.
Thanks for the input!
NC
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 08, 2011 04:22AM
Hey dreamchaser-

If you've interpreted the above posts the way I have, I think that the central theme is that it's tough to know what to expect in your situation. In NC, there are no clear guidelines about exactly what happens if you fail a start test, rolling test, engine off test, etc. like there are in other states. In one state (can't remember which), you're given three "strikes" per monitoring period before you go into permanent lockout (i.e., you can have two fails per monitoring period and not suffer any consequences).

Anyway, It seems like what will happen at your next monitoring appointment is either a) you'll be asked by Monitech staff to fill out some sort of explanation for the alcohol reading which can/will be forwarded to DMV (who might schedule a hearing, this is DMV not the police, though), or b) they won't say anything about it and it will be like any other monitoring appointment (which is what happened to me-see my posts). I'm still waiting to see what will happen myself and it's been 8 months since my fail with nary a word from Monitech or DMV about it, at least yet. I will keep you posted on what happens-there is so little information out there that forums like this are really the only way to report news/consequences.

My hunch is that typically DMV will come down harder on people who have more than one fail/warn/etc. This is just a hunch, though, but I will say that the instances of license/privilege revocation I've read about have involved multiple fails/alcohol readings. I have had acquaintances with interlocks in the state (NC) who have blown fails (some with more than one during their year with the device) and never had anything happen to them. So, again, who really knows what happens?

I'm sorry to hear about your situation, and I hope that nothing comes of it. Please keep us posted on what does, though. Try not to worry, and don't let the stress affect your life too much-it's just not worth it.

Thanks,

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
June 21, 2011 02:36PM
dreamchaser Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hello everyone,
> I got my 1st BAC fail today and no warns at all
> since installed in November. I could not tell you
> why I failed, shocked the hell out me. It bothered
> me so bad I was scared to blow again.(Didn't want
> any multiple fails) I have a new Bactrack S70 that
> works great and always shows accurate readings
> according to what I drink. First thing I did was
> come in the house and blew in the Bactrack and it
> showed 00.0 bac level. I know these hand held ones
> are not truely accurate, but for me to get a fail
> without any drinking is totally wrong. Stomach is
> a little bothered from eating to much fruit the
> night before and had a couple of hotdogs earlier
> today. If that was a problem Bactrack should have
> shown it as well...Thank God no service light.
> Monitec service date set for the 15th of this
> month. Not sure what to expect!
>
> P.S. 2nd thing I did was to find this sight.
> Thanks for the input!
> NC
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 02, 2011 01:42PM
congradulations on your hearing there not that bad as long as your prepared and are innocent thats why i keep saying keep your readings from monited the hearing officer has same reports,some times i think they just want a face to face to see if you apear like you have been drinking
i have untill nov 18 to get mine out i go to dmv before removal my only concern is will they tell me to go back to monitec for final reading if so thats ok licensa back on 17 moniter out on 18 ,i have a samall garage and i dont dare test drive a car untill my licensa is restored again thats great news
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 07, 2011 07:32AM
BS1234 like you i was not aware of mouth contamination i had a hearing last year i had all my paperwork including notes i made on them at each down load, when the tec says you have a violation write on your copy why u had it ,yes cary water with u at all times in doubt rinse ,be honest tell the hearing officer you were never told about mouth contamination ,if you ear any fruit pies from a store it will register ,fresh yeast bread do not put on sfter shave or colongue in your vehicle also dont eat a slice of pizza before blowing i had all of these give me a low reading after 3 of these i had a hearing i havent drank in over 5 years,also if your still drinking and not driving thats good but if your drinking stop before your hearing they cal tell if you are
i slso have 3 down loads that say the machine never recorded ny thing nothing no starts no violations nothing, the head set has been changes 5 times but im clear DMV is aware of these problems ,good luck dont be afraid of your heaing
after 3 years ill have my unit removed on the 18th ,10 more days,from what the tech said i go to dmv first get unrestricted license then removed next day, my concern is does dmv want my last down load first before removel if so ill deal with that .i have a small garage i dont even test customers vehicles because of this,i also work for a large parts supplier so i keep busy good side is monitec is paid off finely 'soon ball and chain is gone
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 09, 2011 04:39PM
if any one needs advice on a hearing maby i can give you some pointes but if your using mouth wash or after shave while driving Dont it will send a false reading also bread food read some previous postings if you need help just send me an e-mail im not online every day but ill get back to you uncledave2416@yahoo.com
i have gone thru so much with this ball and chain its unbeleavable but a learning experience
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 11, 2011 06:52AM
bs123 think about changing to the quick test well worth the money, hearings are a pain i didnt use an attorney and come out ok just be honest they have hears it all and are aware if the faults with the monitec devices
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 18, 2011 02:02PM
well today i got rid of my interlock and license with no restrictions,its been a long 3 years , funny when i left monited in charlotte i stopped for gas and when i git back in my truck i reached for my monitec before i realised its gone ,i went yester day to dmv and today to monitec i didnt have any problems any place,i got to monited at 12 ocloch and hr early there was oly one tec there and he was closing for lunch he stoped and did my final download and removed my unit it was nice as he could have made me wait another hr, ill still be here for any one with questions or needs help thanks to also for his help and support uncle dave
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 19, 2011 07:51AM
So glad to hear it, uncledave! I remember just wanting to drive a lot after I go my de-install. It's really a great feeling.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 25, 2011 08:31AM
cc197 i have gone thru a hearing its not bad there just strict ans the hearing officer is well aware of the problems with your unit just explain what happened ,i dont recomend an attorney that means the officer cant ask you questions directly or you lawyer will object a lot, they will watch you blow just take all your downloads with you to prove whta has happened,if you havent drank in along time they can tell,i just had my last down load and unit removed i also went to dmv the day before the get a duplicate licens with no restriction all they did was look at my licensa and the date when the retriction were to be lifted then took my pic i gave them $10.00 and left thw will send your license in a couple of weeks next dat unit was removed,
its funny my appt was at 1;20 i got to monitec in charlotte at 12;00 every one was at lunch except for one young man and he was locking up for his lunch i told him o could wait he told me he would take a short lunch and do download and uninstall these guys are really nice if you dont give them a hard time, uncledave
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 11, 2011 06:36PM
hey aldo,

How long ago was the acquaintances that had the blown fails and never had anything happen to them? Maybe this is something new the dmv has started. I've had my interlock for less that two weeks, and this morning I overslept and was late to work, well I got in such a hurry i brushed my teeth and used some Listerine and forgot to rinse my mouth out. Well, I go and get in my truck and blow into the interlock and I guess i got a fail and it was over .08 presumably because it made it go into early recall. I called monitech and explained it to the lady and have to take it Wednesday. I didn't mess with trying it again since I was late to work, I just got my sister to carry me. I come back home for lunch break and i passed it fine. I haven't had any warns or anything since I have had it installed. I'm now worried to death, that nc dmv is gonna send me a letter that I will lose my license. I don't know if I will be fine because I didn't try it again, and when I came back from my lunch break I passed. I am so scared right now.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 12, 2011 01:58AM
>How long ago was the acquaintances that had the blown fails and never had anything happen to them?

Within the last five years. These were not "high fails," though, just plain "fails."

Sorry to hear about your situation-other than what's posted above I don't (personally) have any new information to add. I hope it turns out okay for you. Please keep us posted on what happens with Monitech/DMV-there is hardly any information out there other than forums like these.

Thanks,

AR



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/12/2011 03:03AM by Aldo_Raine.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 13, 2011 01:19PM
Just got back from monitech. I told the guy what happened and he said he's had people using listerine make that mistake before. But from what he could tell the early recall was some kind of tac failure, whatever that is. I didnt have to pay anything, he reset it and sent me on my way. What a sigh of relief.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 23, 2011 03:59PM
Hey guys. Read all your posts. My husband had a fail this morning. He has only had it for two weeks. Would you call Monitech and just report it to look better or just wait and see what happens at his appointment the end of May?

Maybe in a year I can breathe again.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 24, 2011 09:01AM
Hey Jpaul62-

I can't really say for sure. I called mine in after it happened because I was convinced it was false (review posts in this thread). I have no idea the protocol they follow for "fails," but it seems that some/lots of discretion is given to the technician who downloads the data to determine if the "fail" constitutes a violation.

I wish I had better advice to give, but I'm not really sure what the best course of action is. Good luck with it, though.

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 12, 2011 08:20PM
If you get a suspension letter... request the Hearing.
THEN,
Get an attorney.
Check my above posts for updates on my case....
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 12, 2011 10:05PM
Yes, it is something new. A little over a year ago, Monitech changed the software they use to log and report our every breath.

Check my above posts for updates on my case...

Good Luck with yours
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 13, 2011 04:32AM
jezaka-

I'm very sorry to hear about the outcome of your hearing. I wish you the best of luck in your appeal. It's disturbing to know that even when you get a "pass" after taking a start-up or rolling test, you may have inadvertently registered a low BAC with the device, and that those readings can be used against you. That doesn't seem right at all. I also find it strange that you were required to fill out a client response form for those types of readings (the sub-0.02 BAC readings) and not "warning" readings you'd gotten in the past. If anything, I figured that it would be the other way around, even though you hadn't started your car (whether or not that's fair in the first place).

Even though it is very unfortunate that you had to do so, thank you for updating the thread with your information. Again, good luck, and sorry to hear about your bad news.

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 13, 2011 04:36AM
I should add, I'm curious about the poster bluemarie, and what happened in her case. Were you able to uninstall the device (if that time has come yet)? If you're checking this thread, please add updates! You too please, YoMaMasmiling smiley

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 13, 2011 11:34AM
I did not have to fill out a response sheet for the WARN "hangover" mornings bc I chose NOT to start the car. Those are not violations.

It is all so very tricky
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 13, 2011 02:59PM
Just got back from monitech. I told the guy what happened and he said he's had people using listerine make that mistake before. But from what he could tell the early recall was some kind of tac failure, whatever that is. I didnt have to pay anything, he reset it and sent me on my way. What a sigh of relief.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 18, 2011 08:05PM
Sorry guys! meant to get on here sooner and give an update. I FINALLY GOT THE DAMN THING OFF MY CAR!!!
The day before i went to get it off, i called the Raleigh DMV to make sure everything was good and that i didnt have any violations or anything. The women told me i was all good to get it off. Went to monotech, they took it off, printed me out a certificate, and i left. Your last time you dont have to pay anything, which was great too along with getting that shit off. After i left there i went to the DMV and paid 10 dollars to get that interlock restriction off my license and i burned my old one. Be careful about drinking the night before and going to blow into the thing in the morning because it will register if you still have some in your system. Let me know if anyone needs anything answered!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 19, 2011 04:12AM
Congrats, bluemarie! You give the rest of us hope. I'm really glad for you that you're finally done with it.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 18, 2011 08:38PM
And like jezaka said, if you get a warn or a fail (under .08) and do NOT start the car, they aren't violations. At least in my case they were counted against me. For the whole year and a half, I think I had 2 where I blew in the morning and got a fail but didn't start my car. I also had a high fail which was above .08 one time and again I DIDN'T start my car and I had to take it in and pay $35.00 to get my machine reset. I didn't fill out anything then either. It may differ which each individual. But honestly the rest of the time I had all passes. It's not worth it AT ALL to risk messing up your time with it because you will just get screwed. If I drank the night before, I started earlier and made sure I quit drinking before 12:00. And drank tons of water like a few bottles before I went to bed. I didn't drink often when I knew I had to drive somewhere the next day because I didn't wanna take a chance. Good luck!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 13, 2011 04:20PM
Hi bluemarie,

I have read your posts and was wondering if you could answer my question. I just got the interlock on my car 3 weeks ago, so I am still very new to it. A few days ago, I drank the heavily night before work, and knew that I should probably not drive myself the next day. My husband drove my car (he isn'[t a drinker) to my work and a few hours later I decided to test the machine (how dumb am I!). I failed and received a 5 minute lock out. I didn't test it again and I didn't turn the car on. 3 hours later, I tried it again, and still failed. Again, I didn't test it again or start it, but rather called a cab and went home. My husband later retrieved my car for me...I didn't dare blow into again. I have to go the the Monitech office on Monday for service. Since I didn't try to drive the car, what do you think they will do to me on Monday?

If anyone else has any feedback, please help me.

Thank you all!!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 19, 2011 04:57AM
Thanks for the additional info, bluemarie. When I got my "fail," I am pretty confident that it was a false reading, because like I posted above, 30 minutes later, I "passed." I started the car and let it run briefly before shutting it off for the night and calling Monitech about it the next morning (like I posted, my installation technician said it looks a lot better for you if you get a "pass" after a "fail" presumably to show that the "fail" was an error, but who knows). I hope that won't count against me. As posted, I didn't fill out any papers or anything and they didn't mention it at my monitoring appt.

I also don't understand the logic behind Monitech/DMV not counting "fails" (high or low) or "warns" against you unless there was clearly an error. It's my understanding that if you get a "warn" you can start the car and presumably log a BAC level over 0.02 (in the "warn" range) during a running retest, which would mean you're driving with an elevated BAC, but if you get a "fail" you can't start it anyway because it goes into either a 5 or 30 minute lockout (mine went into a 5 minute lockout) before you can test again. And if you get a "fail" again, you still can't start the car. Is this because some people have different interlock units that allow you drive after getting a "fail?" That wouldn't make sense to me. Also, what would the purpose of the device showing pass, fail, or warn if you can start up and drive after any test result anyway?

What I'm now terrified about are people getting violations for having incredibly low BAC levels that register as "passes," as what happened to jezaka. It's counter-intuitive to me that those readings hurt you but high BAC test results don't? And really, who is impaired with a BAC of say 0.005-that's five thousandths not five hundredths?? That's probably the equivalent of a 1.5 ounce sip of beer. Super low BACs like that probably wouldn't even register on a personal breathalyzer-mine won't register anything below a 0.01.

It just doesn't seem right that if someone gets a "warn" on start test and doesn't start his/her car (which is the safe thing to do of course) they are not penalized, but if someone gets a "pass," unaware that the device registered any alcohol, this counts against them if they have a very very low BAC and go on to drive, unaware they are registering breath alcohol. It's all very confusing to me, and things don't seem consistent across the board. The stress from having this on my car is immense. I know I brought it on myself, but how can you feel safe about starting up when even if you register a "pass" you might have actually failed the test?

Man. Looking forward to (hopefully) getting this thing off on time.

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 01, 2011 01:43AM
I stumbled across this doing company research.
There seems to be some confusion about how our devices work and respond to your actions, yes I'm a Monitech Technician. Your BAC thresholds for Pass/Warn/Fail are different depending on the agency that sent you to us; also different are the requirements for classifying Non-Compliance events. You are either a client from DMV (Repeat offender with perm. revocation that has been given another chance) Usually having a 7 year interlock period following a long suspension. Department of Justice (Repeat offender with at least one offense happening before Jan 1, 2007) Usually a 3 year interlock period. or NC Court System (First time offender that registered over .159 during DUI arrest) Usually 1 year interlock.

If you weren't asked to fill out Non-Compliance paperwork at your monitor appointment you have nothing to worry about.

If you blow a fail that falls between .04 and .079 you'll have a lockout period and you should make note of what happened immediately prior to your test so you can give good reasoning. It looks good in this situation if you blow continuous .000's immediately after your lockout period ends.

If you get a warn it is best to not drive, as this will not usually result in NC events. If you must drive after a warn, make sure you take at least a couple more tests that result in .000's

ANY BAC of at least .01 on a rolling retest is going to be a NC issue. This is the most serious other that of an Immediate Recall (Permanent Lockout) High BAC over .08.

Ask your technician for a copy of your particular non compliance events.

Hope this clarifies things.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 19, 2011 05:35PM
ou mean a rolling BAC of .10 and not .01, don't you?
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 25, 2012 03:15PM
Turf Cat,

Being that you are a Monitech Tech, maybe you can clarify a couple things for me,,.,


I just got this on my car and am worried about readings.. Does Monitech measure Bac readings to the .000 or leaner say .0000?

What is reported on the report..

I will drink from time to time, not alot but will. I bought a Backtrack S80 that measures to the .000 This will pick up any trace amounts but will not go further than the .000, s. I will never start my car if I have a .001 reading, but would fell comfortable at .000 asuning I took into account the time I stopped drinking to completyl verify. The sensors in this unit are the Fuel Cell Sensors.

Also, Assuming the above is true, I should never blow a Warn ever correct?

Bulldog
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 01, 2011 10:08AM
turfcat91-

Thank you very much for taking the time to post in this forum (in this and other threads). It's great to get helpful, accurate information from an insider who not only knows what he's talking about but who also seems to understand our worries (valid or not) when it comes to the interlock.

Much appreciated.

AR



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/01/2011 10:31AM by Aldo_Raine.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 04, 2011 04:42PM
> Thank you for your post. I recieved a letter in
> Aug. 2010 notifying me I had violated. I finally
> had my hearing this March. I explained to the
> hearing officer that I do not drink and drive. The
> readings that were brought to my attention were
> between .001 and .029 in March of last year. I was
> then asked to explain these readings. Now keep in
> mind they were from a year ago and due to the fact
> that I recieved a pass I had no idea I had
> registered anything. Much less how to explain it.
> When I said that to the hearing officer they
> replied that was a fair statement and they would
> keep that in mind in there descision then
> proceeded to suspend my license by mail. How is
> one to know they have technically failed if they
> get a pass. Why would a machine that you are
> paying to have in your vechile to prevent you from
> driving with alchol in your system allow you to
> start your vechile with alchol in your system. Why
> and how are you supposed to prove you were not
> drinking when they don't have to prove you were.
> What happened to innocent until PROVEN guilty. I
> also was not informed of my right to appeal to
> superior court. I am aware of the fact that at
> least 17 people had there licese taken by this
> officer in one week alone. Yes I made a mistake
> and got a DUI but I don't feel I should have to
> pay for it the rest of my life to drive. How is a
> person supposed to maintain a job with no license.
> With no job how do you live. How do you pay bills
> and of course your fines owed to the state. I am
> talking to a lawyer to see what I can do. The
> icing on the cake is iI didn't even blow and there
> was no blood test so there was no proof that I was
> drunk in the first place. If you have some advice
> please feel free to share.
>
>
>
> We
> are all in this together,
>
>
> jedimindtrick
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 09, 2011 02:22PM
I got my ignition lock taken off today. I had 2 fails in the previous period and one of the readings was .04. I am obviously freaking out as the thing is off the car but I know this isnt quite behind me yet. I called the NC DMV and they told me that since none of the fails were rolling fails that I did not have anything to worry about. I followed up and asked the very same questions via email and they told me that if there was an issue with the readings I would be contacted by the DMV and have an opporunity to speak at a pre-trial hearing and they do not know if I will be notified or not. That was 2 conflicting responses so I am not sure if anyone has any advice for me?
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 10, 2011 03:53AM
Ekstrom-

Did you read the above post by the Monitech technician? Per him, if you weren't asked to fill out any non-compliance paperwork at your monitoring appointments, "you have nothing to worry about."
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 10, 2011 04:32AM
I did read that, but the gentleman that helped me yesterday said that he doesnt read the readings most of the time unless spefically asked. So unless a letter would be automatically generated than I dont believe that he would've gotten the letter out on his own. I hope that makes sense and I am not speaking badly about the technician. The previous posts are what prompted me to ask again.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 10, 2011 05:00AM
I wish I had more to tell you. While I definitely don't pretend to know how everything officially works with Monitech/DMV, going by what turfcat91 has written (who appears knowledgeable and credible), and by what else I've stumbled across on the internet (firsthand accounts, not as reliable), it seems that Monitech staff notify you of non-compliance events at your monitoring appointment, where you're asked to submit your version of events (the "paperwork" referenced above) for review. As I understand it, this (non-compliance notice) gets sent to DMV where they ultimately decide whether or not to take action. This chain of events makes the most sense to me. I have not heard of people who have gotten alcohol fails/warns/high fails/any rolling retest BAC levels getting suspension notices from DMV without hearing about them from Monitech first, but then again, I don't know. Maybe that has been the case. In nearly all of the suspension/limited privilege revocations I've read about, the person who violated the interlock rules found out about it at their monitoring appointment.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 10, 2011 05:11AM
When I went there yesterday, the first thing I had asked the tech was if he could let me know what my reading was because I didn't want the thing taken out of the car if it was going to be put back in again a month later. That's when he told me that he doesn't always look at the readings and just submits it. When he told me the reading was .04 I asked if there was anything that I needed to be worrried about. He replied and said that he didnt know because he was not the DMV and that was up for them to decide. He wasn't mean about or it anything but left me with more questions than answers.


I guess the biggest question is, if I nver turned the key to start the vehicle, is that a violation? The DMV told me 2 conlficting responses to that question yesterday. I have one speeding ticket on my record and just the one DUI, I am wondering if they will take that into consideration as well. I am kind of thinking out loud right now.

I unfortunately will be able to think of nothing other than this for the next month or however long it would take for a letter to come.


I really appreciate you taking the time out of your day to reply to the posts.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 10, 2011 06:24AM
The only thing I'd add is that what the technician told you seems to conflict with what turfcat91 posted above, and also from what I heard from a technician a while back (see my first post). I was specifically told that "I'd know it" if I had a violation/non-compliance (additional paperwork per the technician). I think the techs are generally good people (like everyone), and I don't think that they'd want to worry or confuse you. Perhaps he was intentionally being noncommittal about telling you what to expect from DMV even though he knew nothing would come of it (seeing as you didn't fill out non-compliance report) because he didn't want to mislead you because he didn't know. If he still checks this forum, hopefully turfcat91 could shed some light on the issue if he feels comfortable doing so (I am sensitive to his not wanting to divulge company secrets about how things are handled).

Did Monitech give you some sort of certificate of completion when you had the interlock uninstalled? See bluemarie's posts above. It also looks like she called DMV to ask if she had any kind of violations when getting her device taken off-you might want to do that for peace of mind.

Good luck with it and try not to worry too much-that's never a good thing, especially when things are out of your hands.

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 10, 2011 07:08AM
The last line that you wrote is the same thing I have heard from everybody and it truly couldn't be more true! I just need to keep hearing that and telling myself that and maybe I will start to belive it myself, haha!

I believe they do an excellant job over at Monitech. He probably was being non-committal to not cause further stress. I did recieve a completion certificate from them yesterday, at the bottom it said it would be subject to one final audit from the DMV. I called the DMV again this morning and my status hasn't changed as far as no further restrictions on my license from yesterday but it is probably too soon for them to pick up anything just quite yet.

What is so confusing is that the DMV on the phone said that since I didn't have a "roll failure" that I had nothing to worry about as I did not attempt to start the car after it had failed me. But when I emailed them they said that they would not be able to determine anything until the final report gets sent to them.

I hope turfcat91 checks these posts out again as well, it was very nice of him to sign up on here to help people such as ourselves to shed some light into what we are going through.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 10, 2011 07:57AM
People in positions to make regulatory/official decisions are going to have a tendency to be non-committal if not vague, especially when it's in writing (in reference to your email).

My slightly educated hunch is that you're probably fine. The "final audit" probably refers to DMV verifying that you haven't generated any non-compliance reports from Monitech. And if what has been posted above is true (and I don't have reason to doubt it is, both from turfcat91 and bluemarie), you probably didn't have any reported non-compliance events seeing as you didn't have to fill out related papers (assuming you hadn't before, I don't know how that would go).

Dude, trust me: I am the biggest worryer on the planet. I totally sympathize. Do you already have your license back and just need to have the interlock restriction removed or have you not gotten it back yet? Addressing your license status at the DMV (to either remove the restriction or get it reinstated) is probably when you can safely know for sure.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 10, 2011 08:26AM
Haha! I am my own worst critic as well.

I got the license back about a month and a half ago. So this was the last peice of the puzzle. No I haven't had to fill out any of those form previously so that would be new territory for me.

I have got to think that someone like me who has only 1 speeding ticket in his life and this 1 DUI is really not on their radar. Only time will tell at this point, I will have my lawyer present if I have to go to the hearing based on the horror stories I have read and the experience my buddy went through as well. He had 2 DUI's so it's hard to use his experience as a reference point.

Thanks for your time, it is greatly appreciated. Time to try and sell some bonds! haha.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 10, 2011 02:11PM
I got a call back from Bill Powers today. They told me that since I never attempted to start the vehicle after the fails that I did not commit any violations and that I did not have anything to worry about. I would highly recommend using that law firm if you live in Charlotte, NC.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 13, 2011 05:53PM
Hi ekstrom8,

Did Bill Powers say anything about the BAC level when you had your fails? Is it a violation if it is high? I had two fails a few days ago, but didn't start the car. The fails were a few hours apart, but the alcohol from the night before had not left my system yet. After the second fail, I called a cab, went home, and my husband retrieved my car a few hours later (he is not a drinker, so of course he blew .000). I have only had the Monitech device in my car for a few weeks, so I am still getting used to it.

Thank you for your help (a fellow Charlottean)!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 16, 2011 07:19AM
From what I have come to understand in this whole thing is that if you do not attempt to trun the key or start the car than it is not a violation. I do not think the BAC is a factor in that case. I have been told be several sources and my own slight knowledge of this that if you fail "rolling tests" than that is a big deal in their eyes. I will keep you posted, on Tuesday it will be 7 days since the ignition has been out and havent seen a letter yet. I have also called DMV and my status hasn't changed yet, it might be too soon for some final resolution in my case though.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 17, 2011 12:07PM
I called the DMV today since had been a full 7 days since the ingition lock was removed from my car to check my status. The lady I spoke with told me that I was all set and could go to the DMV to have a duplicate license made with the ingition lock requirements no longer on the license. So for all those reading this. Do not attempt to turn the key if you get a fail until your are 100% sure you will pass the next time.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 17, 2011 04:42PM
Thank you, ekstrom, for keeping this thread updated with your info. It is much appreciated.

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 23, 2011 06:51PM
My last appt at monitech my tech actually did a calibration, but before that I have never had this done. John usually just took the readings and never gave my device the the wet bath to calibrate it. I haven't had any issues but was wondering if anyone else had never had their device calibrated.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 18, 2011 07:02AM
Absolutely, If there is any way I can help, I am all for it. Since there seems to be zero transparancy for how this whole thing works between the 2 sides, haha. If anything changes I will be sure to keep everyone informed.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 18, 2011 12:03PM
THANK YOU to all who wrote in,
I woke up this morning thinking I was good to go and failed. I did not do anything after the fail light came on, I just ran inside I had my boyfriend drive me to work and I was freaking out because I had a warn light last month and I was just thinking the worst...thinking I was going to lose my lisence!!! Or that I would have to pay a massive fee or go through a long drawn out process explaining the situation. But after reading these logs I feel much better knowing that if I did not turn the key then there is not a violation. I am still waiting to get home and see if the service light came on or not (please not again, i've had my defective pos box serviced 3 times in a month and half!!).
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 20, 2011 03:04PM
had my interlock for 3mths now and have been having trouble with blowing too hard or too soft. decided to call and let them check it out, the tech was very nice and came out and tested it 3 times himself and passed everytime. he watched me and told me i was not blowing correctly, he gave me some pointers and sent me on my way since the service light was not on. next day still have a couple error aborts but it is not as often and im trying hard to get the blows correctly. now two days later i went out to crank my vehicle and i get the same error light and pass light again and the service light starts flashing. called monitech and of course they tell me i have to bring it in to see what the issue is. i am certain it wont be for alcohol since i havent drank in forever and it wont be for tampering with the device so it has to be for too many error aborts. i was wondering if anyone else has had this problem and how you resolved it
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 23, 2011 06:55PM
has anyone else, not had their device calibrated on their monitech visit. I haven't had a problem but last time I went the tech told me my device was way off. I told him that my device usually got the readings but never got the wet bath to calibrate it. I haven't had a problem with it but I would like to know if anyone else has not had their device calibrated during their visit and only had the readings taken.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
June 21, 2011 10:11AM
I believe that the levels for PASS/WARN/FAIL are different when you are taking a rolling retest and a start-up test. I think if you blow anything over a .01 during a rolling test then it fails you. I am not sure of this, but I had a fail during a rolling retest soon after getting mine installed. I was on my way to work and was drinking a Starbucks energy coffee drink. I had no idea what to do, so I called Monitech and they told me I had to pull over to turn off the car. I didn't do this in time, so then my car started having the horn blow! When I finally pulled over, I turned off the car, rinsed out my mouth with water, and retested. I got a PASS and went on my way. At my next monitoring appointment, I was shown that I had blown a .011 during the rolling test (for which I had received the fail). After I stopped and retested, I blew a .000. The only problem I had was the fact that I didn't pull over in time because I didn't know what to do, so I had to write an explanation as to why I did not pull over immediately. My monitech technician has told me that the DMV understands that we will have some issues such as innocent failures at start-up, etc. Good luck to everyone!



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/21/2011 05:12PM by amking819.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
June 21, 2011 09:38AM
I recently blew a fail and when I found these posts it scared me to death. Fortunately all went well at my appointment yesterday. I read a previous post that said it would pass you if your BAC was .02 or less....I blew a .02 and mine failed! It had to have been something in the air because i never drank anything. I have had 3 new handsets due to malfunctions. I also had a fail due to perfume. I hate this thing with a passion. The tech said that even something as simple as a cheeseburger can set it off....something they cook them with can do it. He said it was advisable to keep a bottle of water with you and to rinse before you blow. If I can help anyone please let me know...I am 8 months into my year with this horrible contraption!!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
June 22, 2011 06:47AM
Just do not start turn the ingition if you have a "start fail" and it will not be a violation. I never had any roll fails so I unfortunately cannot offer any advice in the department. I have had the "blow and go" off for over a month now!! Stay strong everyone and do not let the "man" get you down!!!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
June 22, 2011 01:20PM
Thanks guys for keeping this post going. My husband didn't have to fill out any paper work at his first visit at the end of May and no letter so far. Of course he got another fail today. I am crossing my fingers that everyone is right that if you don't turn the key you are ok. I have to say, who knew that a hangover would register so high. Think how many of us out there have driven with close to an illegal limit the morning after. It blows my mind (no pun intended).

I hope everyone makes it their full year!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
June 27, 2011 09:52AM
I saw this on a different post and it may prove to be VERY HELPFUL:



Hello everyone. So, I run an interlock company. My focus is to provide the tools to allow my clients to get through their interlock term without having any violations of any sort. Honestly, although it sounds impossible after reading these posts, it is actually not as tough as it is portrayed as long as you follow the rules. All clients should take the time to pay attention to the video provided by all interlock companies. Next, make sure that you ask your provider to spend the time to teach you how to properly blow into your unit. And finally, READ THE CONTRACT!!! Even so, there are so many more things to know about the interlock that most companies are not willing to spend the time to tell you. Here are the staples you will need to get through your term with your system.....

Take care of your system. If your samplehead comes out of your car, please take it out when you are not using it. This is important because if you do not, you can bog your system down (either by too much heat or too much cold). Also, make sure that you take your mouthpiece off of the samplehead when you are not using it. This is more important than taking it in to the house when you are not using it. The reason for this is that when the tip is left on the unit, there is no way for the condensation to release and so the unit will bogg down and not allow a proper breath sample. Also, if you must leave it in the car, please remove the tip and wrap it up in a towel to protect it from both the heat and the cold.

Wait 15 minutes after eating or drinking ANYTHING. Heres the reason....When we eat or drink, some of what we eat or drink may cause an alcohol reaction in our system. That doesnt mean that everything will, but you never want to risk the possibility of getting false positives. Make it a habit to have WATER available because you should always rinse your mouth thoroughly and drink water to rinse any possible residuals of alcohol out of your mouth and asophogus. If you follow this rule, you will never have a false positive for food or non alcoholic drinks.

Here are some of the things that can and will cause violations (as long as you follow the 15 minute rule, you can eat or drink any of these items and still never have a violation).

Fruit: Any fruit will cause a violation because it ferments in our system. Fruits with a higher content of citric acid cause higher violations (oranges, lemons, limes, pineapple, grapefruit, pomegranites, etc, but all fruit will cause an alcohol violation. Also, any drinks that contain any fruit will cause violations if used within the 15 minute time. Other drink products that cause violations are any high energy drinks (Monster, Amped, RedBull, etc), tea with lemon, and any all natural drinks that have fruit such as Kambusha.

Breads and bread products: Due to the yeast, bread products will cause violations. Pastries such as honey buns, danishes, fresh donuts, any type of buns used for hamburgers, hotdogs, etc, and pizza dough. Pizza actually uses active yeast and can stay in your system longer than other bread products.

Mouthwash: These products have a very high alcohol content!! If you must use mouthwash, please use only non-alcoholic mouthwash. Also, when going to the dentist, some of the products used to rinse out your mouth have an alcohol base.

Tinctures: Anything you put in your mouth such as tinctures that are quick reacting products that you just use a drop or two usually have an alcohol base, which is why they work so quickly. Please do not use these products and blow into your unit.

Hand sanitizers, perfume, cologne or gas products: If you useany of these products, they are alcohol based. Please made sure that you have given yourself enough time (outside of the vehicle) for the alcohol to absorb. Never spray cologne, perfume or airfresheners in the vehicle. Although you arent blowing the alcohol directly into the sample head, all systems have a circulating vent at the back of the sample head that circulates the air. If there is alcohol in the air, you are guaranteed a violation. Also, if you a pumping gas or working on a car and smell strongly of gasonline you will get a violation, and never mouth siphon gas and blow into our unit.

Heatburn/Acid Reflux: Now this sounds ridiculous, but if you suffer from chronic acid reflux or you possibly ate something spicy that causes some heartburn, these acids can and will cause violations if the acid level is high enough. Just like alcohol, the acids of heartburn are a mixture of everything in your system that you have ingested, which is why it causes violations. The way to be sure that you will never get a violation from acid reflux is to carry cold water with you and drink water before every initial test and retest. This calms down the acids in your asophogaus and stomach.

Ok, so take into mind that this a general list of products that will cause violation and if you make sure that you wait 15 minutes after eating and then use water to rinse your mouth then drink water to flush down residue, you should never get a single violation.

Now, on to drinking......If you must drink, drink responsibly. Never try and blow into your unit during or after drinking any type of alcohol. Although every persons body is different most people filter alcohol around the same rate of time. If that is the case and you have no underlying medical issues with your kidneys, liver or other parts of you body then you can use this easy to remember process.

1 beer=1 glass of wine=1 shot of whiskey (this is based on a 12 oz beverage or a shot of alcohol that is not like 101....if so change your calculation to accomodate what you are drinking.....

1 beer=2 hours ...................ok, so if you use this calculation and you drink a 6 pack, you have
6 beers x 2 hours = 12 hours
now if you finish drinking at 10 pm that one six pack will be in your system until 10 am (12 hours).

Even using this calculator, if you wake up and feel hungover, do not try blowing in your interlock. There is no hungover phase, you are either intoxicated or sober and nothing inbetween.

You should always get up and eat something to help absorb the alcohol and the acids formed by the alcohol. This helps metabolize the alcohol.

My best suggestion and has been stated in many of these comments is, buy a home breathlyzer, and dont spare on cost because the cheaper models may not test appropriately and you may still get a violation because of a false reading.

Ok, other than that, do not let anyone work on your vehicle without prior approval from your interlock provider. It is a program violation if there are any signs of tampering or start violations are found on your system this may cause you issues in getting your unrestricted license back.

Also, if the system asks you for a retest, never walk away from the system because this is considered a refusal to blow and is also a program violation. This is to assure that you did not have anyone else blow into your unit.

So there it is, hopefully I didnt leave anything out but I would like to close by saying :Good Luck" and follow these rules and you will have no problem getting through your program......
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
July 05, 2011 05:11AM
Hi Everyone,

Like most on this topic I'm dealing with some of the same issues with the interlock. I've had the machine on my vehicle for 7 months starting in January. I've had several fail test during the morning hours....mostly from getting up early to go to work after having a few drinks the following night. I've found that if I stop drinking around 9pm that I never have any problem with the start up of my interlock. Of course this depends on how much you drink and how high your BAC is before bed. I'm concerned about the fails but the tech at monitech says it's not a problem there is a certain level of error the DMV allows.

I've had to replace 2 interlock's due to problems. The system is not perfect and can malfunction like most things. The problem is when this machine fails or breaks it leaves us stuck on the side of the road. I've had several times the machine has given me problems and not allowed me to start the vehicle. Try being stuck on the side of the highway on a hot summer day with 3 kids in the car and no where to go.

The longer I experience the way our DMV and state politics work the more disappointed I am. I've been through 2 years of hell for being a first time offender. After being told by a judge I didn't need the interlock the DMV still makes me put it back on my vehicle after one year on probation. So what kind of sense does it make for me to have an interlock and I can test up to a .04. The DMV is just like the SHP in North Carolina. Way to much good ole buddy crap and no common sense from our elected politicians. The system gets plenty of pressure to make laws tougher for DWI but no common sense because of how much the media puts pressure on them.

They want to make a law to prevent texting in a vehicle......but they want to have someone blowing into this machine and pulling of the side of the road in traffic. NO WAY this machine is safe to use while driving.

Thanks for starting this topic, I look forward to seeing more post about this issue.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/05/2011 08:10AM by wlfpck74.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 26, 2011 09:17AM
My truck will sometimes have trouble starting in cold weather or if it sits too long without running, so if I am off of work for an extended period of time i go out and start it and let it run for about 5-10 minutes. I hardly drink since my dui bu I did drink on the night before thanksgiving and had a few beers on thanksgiving day. I stopped drinking at 7:30 Thanksgiving night. I decided to go and start my truck on Friday night at 8:30 since it had not run in a few days and I would not go back to work until Monday. I waited 25 hours to go out, blow and start my truck. The LJ-1 passed me and I started it, let it run for about seven minutes and then I shut it off. I really think my nerves are on edge since I get my license back on Friday and the interlock off in January. Does anyone think that there is ANY possibility that small traces of alcohol could of still been in my system after 25 hours? I just worry that some super low trace could have been read, even though everything i have ever read says no alcohol would still be in your system after 24 hours. I am mad at myself becauseI feel like should have just waited until this morning to start it, giving me another 12 hours on top of the 25. I think I am letting stress get the best of me since I am almost done and everything else in my life is going so well right now, it is almost like I am looking for something bad to happen. Anyone out there have any insight to ease my mind.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 26, 2011 02:03PM
joetown 2001 you should be fine, it is so easy to get rattled when you sit and think about how much in control of our lives the machine is. i would recommend that you switch to the quick test device. even the dmv hearing officers think that it is a more accurate device. i constantly worry about something i ate or a soft drink causing a false positive. seems so unfair that the unit could pick up something after that amount of time. i even worry about the gas fumes causing a false positive when i stop for gas. i have stopped wearing cologne and putting mousse in my hair. it truly is like a ball and chain around our legs. i have a friend that still drinks and he has the lj1 he always stops drinking 12 hours before he has to drive and he bought a hand held tester. when he takes the test if anything shows up he doesnt drive. if his handheld shows 0.00 he drives and he has never had a problem. try not to worry my friend after 25 hours and a nights sleep you should be fine. cc197
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 26, 2011 02:44PM
Thanks for the support CC197. I feel like I am fine as well, as it passed me and I am on a .01 threshold with my machine. Like I said, I have less than two months to go and get my full license back on Friday. If I had more timel left I think I would switch units, as the LJ-1 leaves too much doubt. I came across some good info that showed I would of had to of had a bal close to .30 to of still have alcohol in me after 25 hours. Also Monitech tells everyone 24 hours is the amount of time to wait to blow if you drank. Also, I did not take a rolling test, just a standing test while the truck ran and warmed up during the seven minutes, then I shut it off. Just want this all tobe over, as the interlock has been much more of a mental and emotional stressor than I ever imagined. I am never going to drink and drive again I can tell you that, and I hardly drink anymore since the DUI. I just had a few over the holiday week when I knew I didn't or wouldn't have to drive. Congrats again on getting through your hearing and again for the support.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 27, 2011 06:22AM
well my ball and chain is gone i got my license in the mail yesterday and had the unit removed the 18th,im not sure if this will get posted as for some reason this site keeps removing my post, Hangion on be warned a lawyer will charge you for a consulation as much as 150.00, as for hearings before resturation im not sure that is true,i didnt get one i also have had in 3 years 7 units in my vehicle and some readings were zero no test no failures nothing this hapened 2 times of course both times they replaced units,as in my previous post always keep your paper work dmv is only interested in bal not any thing else there aware of unit faults,the most important are rolling test if there is good reason for these then u are ok,was unit replaced after you readings if so thats evidence that readings were wrong good luck
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
July 21, 2011 05:48AM
Hey everyone, it's been a while since I posted. I've been cruising along in what I have hoped would be my last days with the interlock installed (I have a couple more weeks ago), but this morning I had a pretty nerve-wracking experience and wanted to share in hopes of getting some guidance/advice. The poster amking819 may be able to help me out.

To recap:
-rinsed with water at 7:45AM this morning, took a start test, and PASSED.
-about 8 minutes later (it was a pretty quick retest indication), I took a rolling retest, and FAILED
-the device prompted me to pull over and take an engine off test, which I did, and PASSED-this had to have been no more than maybe one or two minutes, literally, after the fail, and maybe less than a minute later.

I called Monitech and told them about it, and they said that they would note it on my records. I am FREAKING OUT about this. Here I am, thinking I'm about done with the program, only to have this happen. I have not been drinking at all recently (and I should add, I'm not just saying that to support my innocence-seriously, I have not been drinking, I have a stomach condition and my doctor told me to hold off on all alcohol for the time being).

Has anyone been in a similar experience? I really don't know what to do.

Thanks

AR

[edit: I'd also like to add that after the failed retest, while driving to Monitech and back home to report the event, I received at least 4-5 consecutive PASS readings. I hope that this will help me when it comes time for Monitech and DMV review.]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/22/2011 09:52AM by Aldo_Raine.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
July 22, 2011 10:27AM
Aldo_Raine, This exact same thing happened to me this morning!! I blew and passed, started my car and then literally 2 minutes down the road was asked to do a run test blew and Failed, it asked me to pull over and turn the car off and do an arrival test. Did it and passed which was about a min after the fail. Kept on driving to my destination and it asked me to do about 2 or 3 more run tests during that trip which I passed.

My service appointment is next week so we will see what happens. I haven't drank anything in about a month so I don't understand this.

Also, about a month and a half ago I was out of town and my boyfriend had to move my car and he had brushed his teeth about 15 minutes before and it gave him a fail. He washed his mouth out and then 10 min later got a pass. So now I will have two fails on my report when I go in a few days. I've only had this thing 4 months but i am so sick of it already, especially if I get in trouble for not doing anything wrong. I already have an anxiety problem but this thing is making me crazy.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 08, 2011 09:03AM
Aldo_Raine Wrote:
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> Hey everyone, it's been a while since I posted.
> I've been cruising along in what I have hoped
> would be my last days with the interlock installed
> (I have a couple more weeks ago), but this morning
> I had a pretty nerve-wracking experience and
> wanted to share in hopes of getting some
> guidance/advice. The poster amking819 may be able
> to help me out.
>
> To recap:
> -rinsed with water at 7:45AM this morning, took a
> start test, and PASSED.
> -about 8 minutes later (it was a pretty quick
> retest indication), I took a rolling retest, and
> FAILED
> -the device prompted me to pull over and take an
> engine off test, which I did, and PASSED-this had
> to have been no more than maybe one or two
> minutes, literally, after the fail, and maybe less
> than a minute later.
>
> I called Monitech and told them about it, and they
> said that they would note it on my records. I am
> FREAKING OUT about this. Here I am, thinking I'm
> about done with the program, only to have this
> happen. I have not been drinking at all recently
> (and I should add, I'm not just saying that to
> support my innocence-seriously, I have not been
> drinking, I have a stomach condition and my doctor
> told me to hold off on all alcohol for the time
> being).
>
> Has anyone been in a similar experience? I really
> don't know what to do.
>
> Thanks
>
> AR
>
>

did you have to fill out anything about the fail at your de-install?What did they tell you?
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 08, 2011 09:31AM
mybad Wrote:
> did you have to fill out anything about the fail
> at your de-install?What did they tell you?

No, I wasn't asked to fill out non-compliance paperwork. The tech didn't say anything about it and I didn't ask (similar to how things were when I had a 'fail' start way early on in the program).. I'm hoping everything is still okay some several weeks later...
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 08, 2011 11:50AM
thnx man,i'm hoping for the same.We have the exact same senario.Thats weird that you get a rolling fail just a couple weeks before being done and i get the same.My machine was going off alot sooner than normal the morning i got my fail also and i also had a start fail the first month that it was installed but i did'nt try to start so nothing happenend.Makes me wonder about how the things are programmed.Thnx again.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 08, 2011 01:22PM
Perhaps it's just a test of charactercool smiley. Those are interesting coincidences, but I don't buy into the interlock conspiracy stuff (please know i am not implying you do by writing that, just saying). To this day I still don't know what caused the fails. Mouth contamination could have caused the first one I had but definitely not the second.

Anyway, good luck man-believe me, I know the stress and worry that goes with it.

mybad Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> thnx man,i'm hoping for the same.We have the exact
> same senario.Thats weird that you get a rolling
> fail just a couple weeks before being done and i
> get the same.My machine was going off alot sooner
> than normal the morning i got my fail also and i
> also had a start fail the first month that it was
> installed but i did'nt try to start so nothing
> happenend.Makes me wonder about how the things are
> programmed.Thnx again.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
July 22, 2011 01:07PM
Hey Sara727,

Isn't this so much fun? We seem to be in a very similar boat. Basically, from what I've heard from lawyers (I've been proactive about this), it will look good to have an immediate pass after the fail, and the following passes are also good-they help to demonstrate that it was a glitch or bad sample. One would think science/reason would prevail. The thing that bothers me though is that truly I haven't been drinking, in general. There is no way that drinking alcohol caused my "fail." So I worry that, since I got one "fail," what are the other readings going to show? The last lawyer I spoke with said not to worry about it too much since a) there's nothing we can do about it or even know it's really a problem before the monitoring appointment, and b) the multiple passes after the fail help to show that it wasn't a true alcohol fail. Here's to hoping.

I'll keep you and everyone posted. And we NEED people to please, please keep updating this thread and/or forum with news/results of what's happened to you in your circumstance. Interlocks in NC are a very gray area.

Thanks so much for posting, Sara727, and good luck to you,

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
July 24, 2011 07:37AM
Sara727-

I forgot to post some advice I got from an attorney: if at your monitoring appointment this week you're asked to fill out non-compliance paperwork explaining why you may have gotten the "fail" test, I was told to not mention having had any alcohol whatsoever the night before (which shouldn't be a problem given the fact that you mentioned you haven't been drinking for a month) despite the fact that you may be pushed in that direction at your download appointment.

Please post after your appointment and let us know what happens, what your readings were, etc. It's very helpful.

Thanks and good luck!

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
July 28, 2011 11:48AM
So I just got back from my monitoring appointment and the "Fail" that my boyfriend did when i was out of town didn't bother the tech, It was the one last week that was a complete fluke in my opinion and the one I was least worried about since I had done quite a few "pass" tests right after the incident. He only made me fill out paper work on that one. So I don't know what will happen now and of course the tech said it shouldn't be a problem. But we have have all heard that before on this site and people following up with things going wrong at hearings.

It is really out of my hands at this point and all I can do is wait and see what happens. I will keep you posted. I hope I can move past this and just keeping "doing my time" and get it over with. I am so paranoid now about bringing water and swishing my mouth out before I blow. I thought I was doing the right thing by cutting back my drinking to pretty much nothing and then this happens. Yesterday was my birthday and i was so scared to drink the day before my monitoring appointment that I didn't drink. Anyway I will be keeping you posted.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
July 28, 2011 02:21PM
Sara727-

Thanks for updating the thread with your info. Did the technician show you your readings that caused the fail? If so could you please share what yours were? Also, what did he tell you when he asked you to fill out the papers? That's going to be tough for me because it's almost like I feel like I have to make something up considering I haven't been drinking.

Sigh. I hope all goes well in your situation, and any additional info you can provide is much appreciated.

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 04, 2011 02:12PM
So I just wanted to give a quick update. So I had my last monitoring appt. was last Thursday and then I did not drive the entire weekend. Monday morning I had a Doctor appt. and connected my unit and it was in permanent lockout!! I called Monitech and the lady asked me why I took the unit inside, and i told her because it is really hot outside and the tech at Monitech told me to make sure I bring it inside in extreme cold and extreme heat. She said "don't do that, never disconnect your unit" HUH? All I have ever heard was to bring it inside in extreme weather. Anyway, she gave me an override code and then made an appt for me on Tuesday afternoon. I have no idea what happened, especially because it was just calibrated. Needless to say I missed my doctor appt that I made 3 months ago and now can't get in again for another month. GRRRRR!!! I'll let everyone know what happens at my appt next week.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 05, 2011 08:33AM
In the past have you disconnected the unit on a regular and consistent basis? We use to be able to this in MIchigan , but they changed it because people were taking the handsets and long cords into cars not actually equiped, looking like they were driving cars that were infact equipped.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 05, 2011 10:30AM
Yes in NC you can disconnect the unit from the cord. I have been doing this since I got the unit installed in March. No problems. If you read above I did have an incident about a week before my appt. where I blew started my car with a pass and then 5 min. down the road had to do a run test and got a fail, turned off my car blew again got a pass and passed the rest of my trip. At my appt the tech said my unit was fine. Obviously not though. It's just irritating to have to miss a Doctor appt and then take time to go to Monitech again when I was already recently there and told the tech to look at my unit. I guess we'll see what happens.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 05, 2011 01:00PM
Sara727,

Sorry to hassle you again, but did the tech tell you what your readings look like with the rolling fail you got? Like, what was your startup reading, the fail reading, and then the readings after the fail? I'm curious to know what those were if you have the info and are willing to share.

Thanks!

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 05, 2011 02:06PM
Aldo, When I asked what my readings were he told me I had to contact the DMV for that and I could only know that information if am called for a hearing. It was weird. I think he was being lazy because their was quite a few people in the waiting room and he was rushing around every where. the tech wasn't rude but he was definitely sharp with his answers and seemed preoccupied. I can ask again on Tuesday when I go back again since my machine keeps locking me out. No DMV letter so far but it's only been 5 business days since my calibration. I'll keep you posted.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 05, 2011 03:02PM
Thanks for replying. Considering the fact that some of us are potentially taken to task by DMV for fails, is it not fair that Monitech shares with us what the readings are considering we can get them anyway? I assume there is some sort of proprietary arrangement that Monitech has with DMV (I believe that all logged data is technically DMV's property, so it's not necessarily Monitech's fault for not being able to share). Fair enough, but still. The poster Jezaka listed instructions on how to obtain log data above (or in another thread, can't remember).

Sorry about your recent lockout-what an inconvenience! I wasn't specifically told that I couldn't take the sample head out of the car. In fact, my technician showed me how to do it at one of my appointments since I leave town a good bit (and believe you me, the device does drain batter power, I've needed jumps before if I leave it in the car after several days). It makes sense to want to remove it when it's 100+ degrees out, or very cold when it takes 5 minutes to "warm up." I have found that the technicians are usually much friendlier and willing to answer questions than the customer service reps. But, I realize the reps probably get all kinds of phone calls from all kinds of people, and might be a little jaded.

I think that the stigma of DUI has prevented much investigative reporting into how the interlock law is legislated and administered here. As a lawyer told me, "Monitech swears it has a perfect product, and it doesn't." I don't know of any computerized/electronic product that operates flawlessly all the time. I think that generally, they work well (at least mine does), but I am quite certain the retest "fail" I got was a glitch. The monopoly they have within the state doesn't exactly inspire much trust. Especially considering the rules are so unclear (as you mentioned before, other states stipulate a certain number of fails/violations you can get within a given time period before it's considered a breach of agreement).

Anyway. To you and anyone else in the situation who are honestly trying to abide by the program and "do our time," good luck. I feel like I have a good attitude about the interlock program, and it (along with the whole DUI experience) has scared me straight, that's for sure. Like you said, though, I can't accept being punished (severely, at that) for false fails that are beyond my control when I'm operating the device in accordance with the instructions. Okay, down from the soapbox.

I'll continue to update my status, and I hope you and others will. In the meantime, let's try not to sweat it too much, eh?

AR



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/05/2011 03:16PM by Aldo_Raine.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 08, 2011 02:57PM
Does anyone know of the best place to take your car for service in the Raleigh/Durham area while it has a Monitech system in it. I hate the thought of someone working on the car and judging me when this whole thing even happening is so out of character for me.

Thanks in advance for your help.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 09, 2011 12:35PM
TriangleNC,

Aldo is right, it is bigger and more embarrassing in your head than what it is in reality. At the beginning of summer I had to get new tires and my A/C worked on in my truck. I was mortified about having it done. I just called an auto mechanic and explained it to them and they said it happens all the time. I even told them I was embarrassed and i think because of that they treated me very well and discretely when dealing with the situation. The guy who worked on my car even told me that his brother had one in his car at that time. So try not to worry and call and communicate everything first and let them know how anxious you are about it and you'll find it is no big deal.

As the months go by you will start to get used to the machine and realize no one really cares. I used to duck down in my seat to blow when i was in public. I don''t care now. The other day I was doing a rolling test and a guy went by and looked right at me in a weird way and then he was gone. Ill never see that driver again so who really cares if he saw me.

Good Luck!!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 08, 2011 03:46PM
TriangleNC-

Auto maintenance is a business, not an opportunity to pass judgment. Just make sure that you're careful about letting Monitech know before you get work done on your car, will be doing the work, and make sure that the shop calls Monitech before doing the work. This is very important, because you put yourself at risk of making it appear that you've tampered with the device if you don't document things carefully. I believe that some shops are certified to work on cars with interlocks, but I'm not sure of that. Regardless, clearly communicate what's going on well before you hand the car over to the shop.

I guarantee that you're not going to be the first person getting car work done at any shop who's had an interlock installed. It's part of the business, so don't sweat it.

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 09, 2011 12:56PM
Thanks Aldo and Sara. You do make me feel better. I went 28 years with not so much as a parking ticket and a night of stress brought this on and I didn't even realize how it slipped up on me. I have felt so embarrased, but your words do make me feel better. Your approach is very good! I am finally beginning to feel like good people make bad mistakes and that maybe I can place myself in that catagory. It is amazing how much one can beat themselves up on something like this. I'm ready for it to be a blip on my radar of the past. Thanks again!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 10, 2011 03:16PM
It happened, I received my first fail this morning. No drinking. I did use toothpaste that has the mouthwash crystals in it. The fail was followed with a pass 5 minutes later after rinsing with water. However, on my way home I had a solid error and flashing warning light during the rolling retest. The unit almost sounded like it was stuck. It is the LJ-1 model. I have an appointment setup for tomorrow to get it checked out but am stressed out over this P.O.S. Is there anything to worry about on the DMV end if I didn't try starting the vehicle until the 5 minute later test or with the solid error and flashing warning light? I don't want the DMV to tell me I have to have this thing on any longer than what is required.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 11, 2011 06:25AM
I have had one in my truck for almost 3 years comes out this november lets see from the start what happened,first machine was early version had to push button 3 times in correct timing try that in a freezing truck ,next day after work wouldent start at gas station ,blow pass no start called monitec,they sent a tech out,his computer battery was dead for some reason truck started.later they said i had a 96.00 service call i told them that i was not informed of this later they droped that charge.moving ahead 4 months later i had new unit instaled as soon as i left charlotte and was on I-85 i noticed no dash guages were working my truck is an older one 1981 model,so its easy to work on im also a mechanic ,called monitec about this they said to take to ase certified garage so i did garage was on hold over 30 min never did get to talk to monitec but charged me 20.00 for shop time,i fixed guages my self
had to wire around origional power cable to power them in testing it seems there machine was steeling power from guages,
now as for fails i had 3 all low fails and passesi had eaten a slice of pizza then blew got a .00036 then a donut week later .00042 then a hot dog 4 weeks later .00061.
was never told to rinse mouth i did have a hearing at dmv office to explain Mrs Colby explaned to always carry water and rinse ,I havent drank in 5 years ,
as a warning keep your records in a file i have several where 4 times in almost 3 years the device never recorded any thing, to date i have had 5 replacement heads and 2 complete reinstalls, always write down on your copy any fails and why in case u get a hearing letter,
does every one know that monitec is in a lawsuit by another company and there operating with out any contract till case is settled dmv, allows this because there only company now aproved in nc nc is one of few states with ) tolerance concerning low fails, i had another one from a honey bun asked tech about it he said they dont report low fails to dmv ,bull $hit how did i get letter 2 years ago,dmv mite be forgiving these food related readings now because of court case and problems with units,we never know sorry for such a long post if you have any question just ask, i have had many people with the devices come to my shop , if its imbarrising to be seen blowing in one just say its a new anti theft device lol
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 11, 2011 07:42AM
Just got back from Monitech. I was told the toothpaste could have caused the fail. In addition, they told me that certain foods, soda (mt. dew), and heartburn, can cause a fail that registers a BAC. I was told that since it happened and I was not driving it won't be an issue. The tech was helpful, but I don't agree with the entire situation, that is, being that Monitech was the only alternative. If the state really wants to reform someone, why not use or at least give the option of the ankle bracelet as an alternative to this device. I voluntarily had one on for 60 days. It beats the heck out of having the device on the car. I'd make the switch in a heart beat!

Question for you UncleDave: With the fails and problems, did the DMV add any additional time
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 11, 2011 08:00PM
for steelman no time has been added i havent had any warning but one sense my last hearing,i have had so many electrical issues with these units its not funny ,last year i was told to remove unit at nite now its leave hooked up all the time,did they tell u it turns its self off and on several times to keep its self warm drains your battery,I have a customer in cherryville had it installed because of a ticket, told monitec that she was going on vacatio would it be ok in vehicle they said yes well guess what i ended up installing new battery 3 weeks later she had the vehicle jumped off and then i had to remove and charge battery guess what when we reinstalled unit said the unit was not for her vehicle his was fri and a holiday called monitechs and all tecs were off for holiday she left her car for 3 days till monitech came to fix it ,my own truck now has 2 batteries and a high output alternator,i still get alternator failure pull over blow again,its crazy i really wish to stop on I85 and take an engine off test
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 15, 2011 11:25AM
I have another question. The DMV told me I could start my time during on my limited driving license. My regular license suspension end date is on 09/13. Does that mean I need to go on 09/13 or should I wait until 09/14? Seems like a little issue but I sure would be pissed if I showed up on the 13th and they told me I have to come back on the 14th.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 16, 2011 04:36PM
steelman-

**I am not a layer so please keep that in consideration when reading my reply**

I'm not sure exactly what your situation is with respect to your license and interlock requirement. If you had to get the interlock for a high BAC first-time DUI, then usually you have to have it installed for a year. Technically, as I understand it, you must wait 45 days to have the interlock on your car after your conviction date if you're able to get a limited driving privilege to work, etc. (so basically no driving whatsoever after your conviction date for 45 days). That means that you usually are able to get it uninstalled 45 days after you get your license restored after the 1-year suspension typical for the first time, low severity (i.e., level 5) DUI. Your license will have a restriction for "ignition interlock until [date]" on the back once you get it back. At least mine did.

So It would seem to be bizarre timing to get your interlock off the day after you get your license back. Can you provide any more details?

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 18, 2011 05:57AM
I will have to keep the interlock on until March 2012. I found out that i need to go get my license reinstated with the restriction that I can only drive the vehicle that has the interlock. As far as the 09/13 vs 09/14, I was told from my attorney's office to go on 09/14. My situation was different than many. I was able to plead guilty to the criminal charge without any BAC. However, a few months later DMV got ahold of my BAC which put me in the interlock restriction zone. I had a limited driving privilege from day one, and asked the DMV if I got it installed prior to my license being reinstated, would it count. They told me it would. Did you ever forget and try to start the vehicle without blowing? I drove to the store this morning. Usually I can shut the vehicle off for a few minutes and get back in and restart it without blowing. Today it must have reset while I was in the store. As soon as I realized what happened, I blew and retested. Ooops.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 18, 2011 12:08PM
steelman-

Yes, way early on when I got the IID installed, I forgot to take the start-up test and turned the key and just about had a heart attack after the shrill buzzing the device did to let me know about my mistake. I don't think that's considered a violation, though-I took the start-up test right afterward and passed.

You bring up an interesting point that marks the difference between how DUIs and the details concerning them are handled legally (by the courts) and administratively (by the DMV). I think it's interesting that even though the BAC has been declared inadmissible/a non-factor in your case by the courts that it's been used to impose additional sanctions against you by DMV.

The one lesson I've learned through this process is man, the DMV don't play! I know what I did was stupid, dangerous, and wrong (my DUI), and am lucky I didn't hurt anyone or myself or damage anyone's property, but I'll say this: if I would have known how harsh the penalties were with the DMV (getting the interlock) then I would have thought many more times about deciding to drive (and what a fool I was!). Like I posted earlier, the interlock is MUCH more effective punishment than what the courts dole out, at least in my opinion.

One great thing that came out of all of this is that I know that there is absolutely no way I'll ever drive drunk again.

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 12, 2011 08:46AM
Update:

Got my de-install done today!

It's hard to feel relief so soon, but wow. What an intensely stressful year this has been. The interlock is far, far worse punishment than anything the court system doles out for typical first time, low level offenders.

I don't mean to discourage those of you with the IID still installed-I think that if you have a healthy level or respect for it you should do fine. If you ever do get a fail, be sure to document the circumstances!

I'll keep checking in to answer any questions anyone might have. Good luck, and keep your head up-our DUI convictions don't define who we are!

AR

PS-a BIG thanks to everyone who has posted and shared stories about their experiences and outcomes. As we no, there is virtually zero information out there except for this site.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/12/2011 03:47PM by Aldo_Raine.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 17, 2011 04:10PM
went for my monitech appointment today. i have never had any warnings or fails, i was told by the tech that i had 2 things that showed up. both were very low rolling test readings one was .00013 and the other was .00012, the tech told me he thought it was from mouth contaminants and ask me to fill out a client response form and put what i thought it was from. i always drink a diet sundrop ( a citrus drink ) he said that he thought that may have caused it. i put on the form that i always have had pass results and thought it may have been from the soft drink. he also told me that i had 0.00 on the next test each time. the 2 issues were 7 days apart, one at 9am in the morning which is what time i go to work and 7 days later it was at 8pm in the evening on my way home. it really surprised me because i was sure i had no violations as i do not drink and havent in 5 years as of july 2nd. he said he put in his notes that it was from mouth contaminants and i had nothing to worry about. after i left monitech, the more i thought about it the more worried i became as i am on a conditional restoration and have only had my license back 6 mths. i went back to monitech and spoke with the tech again and he reiterated that i had nothing to worry about that he put in his notes that it was mouth contaminates and it was probably from the soft drink or something else that was in the air. he said i had no failures hi or low and no warnings so i should be ok. again i have never had any problems other than blowing too hard or soft which dont go against you. can anyone tell me if you have had this happen and did you get get called to a hearing by the dmv. i have had the interlock since feb. never any warning or failures and all of the sudden this pops up. im in shock and worried sick.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 07, 2011 11:57AM
Aldo_Raine Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Update:
>
> Got my de-install done today!
>
> It's hard to feel relief so soon, but wow. What
> an intensely stressful year this has been. The
> interlock is far, far worse punishment than
> anything the court system doles out for typical
> first time, low level offenders.
>
> I don't mean to discourage those of you with the
> IID still installed-I think that if you have a
> healthy level or respect for it you should do
> fine. If you ever do get a fail, be sure to
> document the circumstances!
>
> I'll keep checking in to answer any questions
> anyone might have. Good luck, and keep your head
> up-our DUI convictions don't define who we are!
>
> AR
>
> PS-a BIG thanks to everyone who has posted and
> shared stories about their experiences and
> outcomes. As we no, there is virtually zero
> information out there except for this site.


Hey Aldo,Did you hear anything about your rolling test fails before or since your de-install?I have two weeks left before my de-installs and have had no problems untill now.I stopped at the store the other morning and got some coffie and a hony bun.After i left i was eating the hony bun when it went off. I swallowd what i had in my mouth and took a sip of coffie to wash it down then blew and got the fail signal.I pulled off almost immediately and rest the machine and blew again and passed then passed several more times before i got to where i was going.I been so happy that i only had few weeks left with this thing now it's turned to worry.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 07, 2011 03:18PM
No, haven't heard anything yet (before or since). Good luck with your situation-make sure you've taken notes/documented everything you can (as has been advised up and down this thread).

As far as the worrying goes, I can totally sympathize. I've been (and continue to be) there. Just remember there's not much you can do about it until (and if) you hear it's an issue.

AR


mybad Wrote:
> Hey Aldo,Did you hear anything about your rolling
> test fails before or since your de-install?I have
> two weeks left before my de-installs and have had
> no problems untill now.I stopped at the store the
> other morning and got some coffie and a hony
> bun.After i left i was eating the hony bun when it
> went off. I swallowd what i had in my mouth and
> took a sip of coffie to wash it down then blew and
> got the fail signal.I pulled off almost
> immediately and rest the machine and blew again
> and passed then passed several more times before i
> got to where i was going.I been so happy that i
> only had few weeks left with this thing now it's
> turned to worry.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 18, 2011 06:46AM
HI All as for test reading ooo13 and low readings it is my understanding that these are not reported to dmv at this time as they are so low
but always give an explation on report also keep your copies safe, write on your copies same thing that there copy says u can add on your copy what the monitec tech said, keep these copies for referance incase dmv calls u for a hearing.,i called dmv as my unit comes out in nov they told me to go to local dmv get a duplicate license with restrictions removed then to be safe have monitec remove it next day.
remember when u go to service center that these techs have heard every story all ready there only doing there job so be polite ,i know from experience if you have to call there office it depends on who you speak too its useless to argue and like dmv you will get differant answers so relax cool down ,if u get a recall dont panic i have had many of them they always say overide cost 35.00 it dosent if u call and make appt and they just reset it,
warning do not tamper with it if some one says they can wire around it dont believe them if u get a recall for tampering u loose your unit and license,
if you have some curious friend thats drinking blow in unit to see if it works ,they can cost you money and license i have a copy of an interview with the owner of monitec he tells facts about failures , if any one would like a copy of this interview ill send it too u, if its any help all companys that provide these interlock devices have same issues nation wide,
at my last appt i couldent get off parking with out having unit reset,
if your altenater has issues charing or over charging it causes problems mine over charged last week warning goes off pull over and blow engine off test you have 10 minutes then horn blowes, this week im driving to store and horn starts blowing pulled over disconect battery stops horn get 3 day recall next day call monitec told over ride cost 35.00 dont want override so i ask for appt told to go to charlotte at 11:am i always go early had tech my hand set he scans it hands it back and off i go, after almost 3 years of this thing i ready be done with it ,
but i realise i have it because on my own actions, i havent drank in over 5 years another thing if you have a hearing dont lie tell the truth and have your readings and explnations written on your paper work u usually dont get letter from dmv for several weeks and its easy to forget what happened and why, dont say u still have a beer once in a while.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 18, 2011 09:39AM
uncle dave thx for the information. the tech said i had nothing to worry about but i just am so paranoid about it. as i said i have never had any failures or warnings at all. i was in total shock that anything showed up. i have a diet sundrop or a diet coke as i am driving, i always get rid of any gum before blowing. i always rinse my mouth before the start up of my vehicle and have never had a fail or warning. i guess i need to rinse my mouth before the rolling test also. i thought if anything would be suspect you would get a warning and then rinse your mouth and blow again. that has never happened. i am 100% positive it was not for alcohol as i have not drank in 5 yrs. it just seems so wrong that you can get called on the carpet when you have no warnings or failures. the hearing i went to when i got my license restored was so stressful and time consuming that i just hate it if i have to go to another one. seems so wrong thx cc197
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 18, 2011 10:41AM
Hey chriscraft197,

I'm very sorry to hear about your latest visit to Monitech. The BAC readings that you posted are very, very small-it's hard for me to believe that those would warrant much of a response out of DMV.

It might make you feel better to call an attorney who specializes in DMV hearings with interlock issues to run your situation by them and get their take on it. You can explain the situation, and they will be able to give you the straight stuff on whether or not you should have cause for concern-my guess is that they will tell you that you don't need to sweat it. I haven't been called in for a hearing (yet), but I think that it bodes well for you that you blew 0.000s after each small, small reading (barely detectable it seems) and that the technician also believes that those are due to mouth contamination, so much so that he made a note of it. Those factors would seem to go a long way towards proving they weren't from alcohol, especially if you blew 0.000s on your start tests.

I struggle with worrying a lot, regardless of whether or not I can change what I'm worrying about, and so I sympathize very much with what you are feeling-believe me. But try not to let it take over your thoughts-there's only so much you can do.

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 18, 2011 08:54PM
Chriscraft 197 when i first got my interlock it was a relief to finely drive again little did i know it was like a chain and ball around my leg.
i had 3 low readings for something a ate and once for using after shave before i blew dumb me a hearing was scheduled and it went ok as i had good reasons for the low fail funny it let me start and drive 3 months later i had a hearing with a hearing officer i was honest and told her what happened then she asked if i carried water to rince my mouth before blowing she was first person to tell me that ,but hearing was ok .now from what i understand they dont report real low reading to dmv but you can never tell,always give a reason to a alcohol reading, keep your copies and write notes on them if u have a problem ,i have 3 copies that say vehicle was never started unit didnt record any thing i have had 7 differant units always keep notes about replacements, this showes proof about unreliable test i have a copy of monitech owner listing what makes low redings but dmv knowes that units arnt always right
ok heres the answer to a lot of questons if u cal dmv remember there are only 12 people handling dwi cases if u ask same question of every one there you will get 12 differant answers,its like crap shoot. very nerve racking but be honest you put your self in this position like i did .its punishent but better than if u were drunk and killed some one i am gratefull i never hurt any one.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 19, 2011 01:50PM
hi to everyone, thx for the replies. i hope maybe i am just worrying for nothing. the tech said i had nothing to worry about so i gues all i can do is trust what he said. i did make good notes on what happened at my appointment with monitech and maybe that will be the end of it. do you guys think i should go ahead and request a copy of my records with monitech or just wait and see what happens. i dont want to do anything to send up red flags at the dmv. one thing that does concern me is if i get a letter for a hearing i will only have 10 days to get my info together i think. my conditional restoration agreement says that i can be called in for a hearing within 10 days of being notified by mail. uncle dave could you post that information on what constitutes a failur that you have from monitech or email it to me. i value my license so much and would not want to lose them over a fluke reading or mouth contaminants. thx cc197
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 19, 2011 06:09PM
Please someone respond...I am confused... I haveto get an interlock device soon. Will the car start f I blow under a 0.04? Or does it have to be undr a 0.02? Please, someone advise. I am so paraniod now after reading all your inputs, violations, driving priviledges taken away, etc... Thank you, anyone...
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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 20, 2011 12:38PM
yesiam the device is set up i believe to to fail if you blow anything at all, however i think it goes like this 0.00 to 0.02 is the margin for error with the machine. you get a pass at that level but it still records it and you have to give an explanation at your next appointment. 0.02 to 0.03 you get a warning light and it ask you for a retest. anything over 0.04 you get a fail and the next level is a high fail. i am not an expert on any of this so dont use what i say as the gospel. as you can see what i am going thru by my earlier post this program is very serious and even a soft drink or piece of gum can and will give you a false positive. you have to live by the terms of the dmv and monitech, the bad part is you will never know that you have a false positive for mouth contaminants until your next appointment and they ask you to explain it. its really frustrating and leaves me feeling so defeated. i went without license for 5 yrs and was glad to get them back but man is this punishment or what. the first 2 sample heads i had were bad and had to be changed out. i was always getting blow aborts for blowing too hard or not hard enough. this last sample head works great but now im told i had 2 low readings that showed up that i knew nothing about and had to try and explain it. im 200% sure it wasnt alcohol but i dont know what will happen when that report goes into the dmv. i hope i dont get called for a hearing but who knows. makes me kind of feel like a criminal. i hope all goes well for you
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 23, 2011 06:55PM
what caused your recall, was it a false positive or a machine malfunction. seems like we just never know what will happen next.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 21, 2011 08:29AM
chriscraft 197 i hope you have kept all your test results from monitec and put notes on them when u had a failure ,from last experience i was told that warnings arnt reported but u never know,how long do u have to have your machine if u had more than one dwi your limit is zero ,first offence is .04 i think. do you have the one you have to count thousand 1 thousand 2 etc if so think about changing to new machine there more accurate,carry water with u at all times never assume that dmv will notify u if they do at hearing they will inspet your car or truck and make u take a test ,then advise u if your doing any thing wrong then in hering room they will have your record this is where your copies from monitec come in you can look at your sheets and notes and explain why u had a low fail and explain your self,after shave ate spicy food forgot to rinse etc,if you had unit replaced then it helps ,also if you blow again as soon as u get a fail and pass this helps show problem with unit, but remember dont worry aboutwhat u blow just dont drink thats the idea behind all of this,i havent drank in almost 6 years had several low fails and had hearing it went ok as i had explaniations for them
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 21, 2011 08:36AM
yesiam as for being parinoid you should be , the question you asking is car will start at 04 the answer is no,at 02 maby but you mite end up with hearing fast dont concern your self with how much u can blow it sounds like you wish to know if you can have a beer and drive,heres the case if u drink a 6 pack nite before and blow 12 hrs later it mite pick this up, when u set up appt with monitec they will explain it too u i recomend you request that u have the newer unit installed with pin number u use its a lot easer, how long do u have to have yours installed ill help any way i can
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 22, 2011 09:12AM
uncle dave, thanks i havent drank in over 5 yrs now. i had 3 dwis and my requirement is 0.00. that being said i just about had a heart attack when the tech told me i had 2 times where a low reading showed up. i do have the old unit and have had to have the sample head changed 3 times due to problems. i was going to get the new quick test model but changed my mind because i have a friend who has one and his battery goes dead everytime he lets his car sit for a couple of days without driving. the tech told him that was normal for it to kill your battery if you dont drive every day. im thinking now i will go ahead and get the new one anyway since i believe it will let let you know if you have mouth contaminants and gives you another chance to blow after rinsing your mouth. is that correct? the old unit just records it and then you get blindsided like i did when you go for your monitoring appointment. im ok with having the blow and go in my vehicle and i realize i did this to myself. i just dont want to lose my dl after all i went thru to get them back. i keep telling myself i did nothing wrong so i dont have to worry but i still do. i do have my test results from all 3 appointments that i have been to and all have 0 warnings 0 fails and 0 hi fails. the tech told what days the low readings were on and the dates and i made notes of it. if i have to go i gues ill just be honest and see what happens. i must have just not rinsed my mouth out good or forgot to do it. thx for the support. by the way i have to have this thing for 7 years still 6 and a half to go. i just have to make the best of it. thx cc 197
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 22, 2011 10:19AM
cc197 i also had 3 dwis over the years thats why i ended up with it for 3 years i had a dwi in 1985 and one in 1990 and another in 2005 ,i didnt drink for almost 15 years and thought i could drink like normal person big mistake, but life has a way of teaching us thats why i warn people dmv never forgets, get the new unit it does work better and easer u can remove the unit it does kill a battery after several days, you can remove the head, also if you havent drank in several years the hearing officer can tell i had one low warning on my unit was told not to worry monitec said low warnings not reported to dmv but dont hold your breath on that one, you should be ok if your report says 0 warning 0 fails 0 high fail why would u have any warnings reported its so complicated im not sure any knowes a definate answer,i wonder that the ones of us have to have them over one year, maby dmv just wants a hearing to see if we are honest about not drinking i have been told by some techs that they have had people drop off there cars for unit install and had them come back and have had a couple of drinks while they waited,i gues they dont understand that it means no drinking at all not just a couple before u drive,i also have a small garage i have been told people try to get around the units believe me it dosent work , if u worry about battery drain u need good charging systen and good battery if you battery is marginal ill be more that help you or any one fix this problem u do need a good high amp battery if u dont drive every day
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 23, 2011 06:17PM
i got a recall today on unit another trip to monitec tomorrow,they always say it mite cost 35.00,but i try never to get over rides from them as unit ends up needed to be set any way ,for me easer to just call them get appt as soon as possable,, there is always problems with any device, look at your home pc seems always has some minor problem.just another life pain in the a$$,more gas more time waisted oh well
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 24, 2011 03:52AM
uncle dave what caused your recall. did you have a false positive or was it a equipment failure. hope it goes well for you thx cc197
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 24, 2011 10:39AM
cc 197 it was nechanical the tech added a wire with a fuse because i mite have an alternator regulator going bad i get volt surges and mite have called the recal, always be nice to these guys they have ahard enough job, as a foot note he told me they have one customer tha comes in every 2 weeks with a fail of .02 to .04 guy dosent understand you cant drink and drive,they told him he will get a letter soon,
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 24, 2011 11:58AM
uncle dave, im glad it wasnt a fail for you. which office do you go to. i am having my new unit installed this coming tuesday. im sure they were not talking about me. the guys were really nice to me and i think their concern was genuine. ive been rinsing my mouth b4 every blow and i hope it all works out. i really have a clear consciense about it. i think the guy with the 02 to 04 fails every other week is really pushing the envelope and does not value his license. since my last appointment i have made sure each and everytime to rinse my mouth and hope that will solve the issue i had. thx for the feedback cc197



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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 12, 2011 07:23PM
hey uncle dave i got my letter today that i have to go for a hearing because of the two low readings on a rolling test. cant say im looking forward to it. i keep telling myself that i did nothing wrong and not to worry. i have 6 weeks to think about this crap. im thinking i should probably talk to a attorney but money is really tight right now so i dont know. i was starting to feel better and then i got the letter today. i havent drank in over 5 years and this really bites. all i can really do is go and tell the hearing officer that i havent been drinking and hope she believes me. it has to be the diet sundrop that is all i have drank in my vehicle. i rinse my mouth on the start up test but i wasnt doing it on the rolling test. i have changed over to the quick test after the supposed violations and have to go for my calibration on october 6th. it will be interesting to see if anything shows up at that. i have gotten 3 invalid sample readings on the quick test machine but the next test passed. im really confused about that because i blew the same way each time. now i rinse my mouth on the start up test and the rolling test. i have to see the same hearing officer that restored my license, not looking forward to that. she told me that she was really tuff when she had to call people in cc197



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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 25, 2011 07:40AM
cc197 i go to the charlotte office,after almost 3 years you get know these guys pretty well,if you coperative and express your concerns they will help you if your just going to bitch at them they will just do there job and be rid of you , i have had issues with my old truck for a long time i use it as a service truck and will replace it after im done with monitec, i have had electrical problems for some time ,some of it traces to monitec and most to bad ground wires on truck i even had one engine finely go bad in there parking lot last winter they helped me finely start it and we talked what i would need to do to replace engine with out disturbing there unit it worked well as soon as i got back to my shop we switched engines and was back on road next day with out a problem,i have a couple of rebuilt chevy 350 engines so it wasent a great deal i should have replaced engine sooner but job and business took time
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 30, 2011 12:01PM
uncle dave, i gor my new quick test today, its pretty neat. i like it much more than the lj. i talked to the tech and he said people get called in all the time about low readings. seems to me that the hearing officers would have something better to do than call some one in that had 0.00 to start the car then real low reading then back to zero as it was in my case. i havent recieved a letter yet but he was guessing that i probably would. i have a clear conscience about the whole ordeal so i guess ill just wait and see. thx cc 197
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 30, 2011 08:56PM
Thank you for that .I'm ok with having the blow and go in my vehicle and I realize I did this to myself. i just dont want to lose my dl after all i went thru to get them back. I keep telling myself i did nothing wrong so i dont have to worry but i still do. If i have to go i gues ill just be honest and see what happens.I must have just not rinsed my mouth out good or forgot to do it.

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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 03, 2011 02:29PM
Words can not express how happy I was to find this thread! I'm going through the same things that many of you are. I've had this dreadful IID for 6 months. On my last appointment I was notified that a blew a 0.01 on a running test. I blew several 0.00 bacs both before and after my 0.01. I have no idea why I blew that. I don't drink, and haven't for several years (I'm in a recovery program). I wrote on my non-compliance form that it must have been gum, really didn't know. Well, a few weeks later I got the letter from DMV telling me my license was being revoked because of the 0.01. I have scheduled a hearing to dispute the matter. I was so upset, I don't drink! The thought of losing my license over a stick of gum is horrifying!

Nevertheless, after reading a few posts, especially UncleDave's, I'm not as worried. Thanks everyone!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 12, 2011 03:37PM
jenn 0445 how did your hearing turn out cc197
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 04, 2011 10:39AM
jenn0445, cinniman gum can cause a fail or warning,if you blew just before and just after the .01 and had 000 then u should be ok but remember that dmv is well aware if other people being able to blow for you,if you havent drank in years they will tell this dont be afraid just remember perfume or after shave ,bread rolls ,any fruit snack will show up im still worried about what i eat and always carry water to rense with even while driving,i have a small garage and carry different sprays with me eather for starting disabled cars carb cleaner ,etc these units check out side air and sample it these chemicals can maby cause a problem,so i keep all these in back of truck locked up dont let any drinking in your vehicle, alwayus make notes on your down load so you can rember what happened and what you were doing when you had a fail,i have a few readings that have nothing in them,no starts no blows nothing , all zeros this means in a 2 month period the device didnt record any thing,i have had 6 new units instaled and 2 older ones before i changed to the pin number one,and roling fail is very serious,just be carefull and keep up the good work im also in recovery have been for almost 6 years
also when u go to a hearing they will look at your vehicle and watch you take a test its a good idea to have your vehicle clean and a bottle of water in it i didnt have water in my truck it was clean inside thats when she told me about rinsing my mouth Monitec forgot to tell me this pearl of wisdom lol
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 06, 2011 08:17PM
I have had my interlock device in my truck for eight months, and I had a brain fart last week. I got in my truck and turned the ignition without doing the start up test first . This is the first time this has happened, and I have had no violations in the time since i have had the device installed. I am worried that this can threaten my driving privilege, even though I took the test ten seconds after i screwed up and passed with no problem. There was no alcohol issue, just that for the first time in eight months i forgot I had the damn thing in my truck. Does anyone know if this isolated instance is a threat to my driving privilege? Thanks.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 11, 2011 09:12AM
joe forgeting to do test does not hurt you driving license it shows up as violation but not reported to dmv, have done this my self and no problem remember there after alcohol now trying to start vehicle,i have asked about violation most are electrical of time outs like some times you put code in and some one is talking to you so its times out i have blown in device and got a stat then had to run in house for something times out again have to start over ,dont worry about it too much,the worse test you can do is fail or warning while driving i had some while eating on the run,and got warnong ended up at hearing but it went ok
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 11, 2011 09:56AM
Thanks Uncle Dave

I go for my two month monitoring on Monday, so I will find out if they try to report it to the DMV. I am guessing this happened to you before? Did they make you fill out an incident report? There was no alcohol issue, I just forgot to do the test. I blew and tested 10 seconds later and passed and passed the rolling test on my commute to work. i have never had a single problem up until that day, no warns or fails or any reading of alcohol at all. I think I am probably ok I get my drivers license back on December 2nd, so I am just worried a little about something silly screwing things up.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 12, 2011 02:54PM
Hi Joe what happened at your monitoring go
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 13, 2011 09:33AM
It did not even come up as a violation. So I guess I dodged a bullet. So anyone else who ever ends up in the same situation, know that you have nothing to worry about.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 18, 2011 08:54AM
I apologize for the post being really long:

After searching the web for all the information I can find about Monitech and NC DMV rulings, I have found this forum to be most helpful! I thank you from the bottom of my heart for those who decided to share experiences and outcomes in association. I myself have dealt with Monitech since 2009 using the LJ-1 model. The frustration of filling out Non-compliance reports when going in for calibration just about made me pull my hair out. I am on a .00 BAC restriction but the unit I was given was not. It would not warn you that it was picking up anything under .020. It would give me a passing green light for the starting test and for the rolling test. As far as I knew (especially since I wasn't drinking alcohol), I was complying with all request made by DMV. You can only imagine my surprise when I'd go in for calibration to be told I had up to 6 infractions ranging from .009 -.013 on rolling test and to explain them. I averaged 600-700 test in two months. How am I going to remember these infractions if I was never given a sign by the interlock?
Technicians from 3 different locations all told me not to worry about it because they see it all the time. They can tell they were false positives and DMV isn't looking for these types of infractions. I asked all 3 techs if they could adjust the warning light to reflect my 0.00 BAC and let me know if it picks up anything. They told me that they couldn't.

My license was suspended for a year due to these "alcohol" violations of the interlock. I never saw a letter from DMV granted I moved across the street from where I lived and had the same mail lady who knew me personally. (If you move, change your address with DMV immediately) My license was suspended in Aug of 2010. I didn't have a clue! I missed my chance for a hearing. I still had the interlock in my car and was going to my scheduled calibrations for the next 5 months (and paying for them). It wasn't until I was pulled over in a small town where a cop ran my tags and saw my license was suspended that I found out about this. They charged me with DWLR which I received a PJC for. Anyways, I just got my license back last week and upgraded to the Quicktest. I had the previous interlock for almost a year and a half before all of this. Does anyone know if I have to start all over with my 3 years or does any of the first round count? I read on the post above where people had to start over but DMV was telling me I would get credit.
I can't trust anyone from DMV and was hoping for some feedback. Thank you all if you made it to the bottom of my post. Again, I apologize for the lengthy post!!!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 18, 2011 10:44AM
i feel your pain, i too had the lj1 unit and at my last appointment 2 low readings showed up. the tech told me he put it in his notes that it was more than likely mouth contaminants and i had nothing to worry about. well low and behold on monday of this week i got a letter from the dmv telling me i have to appear for a hearing on october 31 to determine if i have violated my conditional restoration agreement. i have had all passes no failures no warnings at all. i updated to the quick test a few days later. i go back to my next appointment on october 6th. i am just totally stressed out to see what that brings. i have not drank in over 5 yrs. and just cant believe the grief and anxiety that i am going through because i am always worried that something i ate or a soft drink may cause a false positive. im always scared that i didnt rinse my mouth good enough or that that the gum i chewed 2 hours ago may cause something. if i only drive a few minutes and only do a start up test i worry that if i had a low reading and the machine didnt let me know i wont have a 0.00 to back it up on the next one. thx cc197
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 19, 2011 07:53AM
to every one here cary a note pad with you and try to keep notes time date reason for warning or fail ,this will help at any hearing,also dont asume that the tech will make notes for you when you put notes in your file keep your copy safe,the quick test is a lot better than older unit,remember if you call dmv that there are only 12 people taking these calls always be polite,keep your cool,if you call 12 times you will get at least 6 different answers to same question,got to love goverment employees
Aftermath im not sure if you have to start over call and ask i think you will get credit for your time i also had to have one for 3 years ,it comes out in novemberi hope,
some people have to have them for 7 years ,as a note dmv inly gets readings not techs notes they dont mail paper work to dmv ,dont blame the tech most are pretty good they listen to all sorts of complants cover your your butt These things are a pain but necessary
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 20, 2011 05:31PM
Thanks for the words of wisdom and understanding Uncle Dave! This forum feels like family! I wish you all the best and brightest futures where you will someday look back at this and smile knowing you have the knowledge and experience to help a love one or friend in similar situations.

To be quite honest with you, I fooled myself in the beginning thinking that I could still drink and calculate when I should stop and how much. It wasn't until I received my second warning in the first six months trying to start my car to go to work that I knew the only way to get through this for me was to quit drinking. I am also going to be really honest here and advise anyone who smokes (I don't mean cigarettes), you have to treat that like alcohol too. If you are going to smoke recreationally, DON'T DRIVE! The interlock will detect it as a low BAC. Eight months prior to losing my license I quit everything all together. The true frustration was being clean and still receiving infractions without the slightest of warnings.

I have another chance to "right the wrong things". I am still clean and very nervous about what I eat, drink, gassing up my car, air fresheners, smoking cigarettes, and being exposed to chemicals. (I work in a factory) I will not go anywhere without carrying at least two bottles of water for rinsing out before all test (rolling included). I have also started a habit of rinsing out and removing my mouthpiece and blowing through them first, placing it back and taking the test. The anxiety is overwhelming in anticipation of my first calibration now that I am back in the system (middle November) . I will keep you posted on how things have turned out. Last but not least, does anyone have experience with being a DD using the Quicktest? Will it pick up alcohol on someone else in the car (via airborne)? Any feedback would be appreciated. If a friend who has been drinking asks me for a ride I don't want to be an "a-hole", but I have to protect myself too. Thanks again!!!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 21, 2011 05:31AM
That's awful aftermath

I worry about the same thing. i dont drink now that i have it in my vehicle, but i worry that something may set the damn thing off. i always rinse and drink water just to be safe. eight months in and less than four to go. So far i have had no bad luck and violations, no super low ones either. i callled the dmv the other day, just to make sure everything was good for me to get my liscense back on dec. 2nd. The hearing officer said i was good and that there were no problems. she also said is was smart to call once a month and check just in case (I think that is crazy). I got my last check a week and a half ago, and they did not recalibrate my un it, it has not been recalibrated since May. Over the last two weeks, some of my rolling tests with the LJ-1 are taking forever to read. they all pass, but it takes up to five seconds for the pass to come. it did this before in the spring, right before it was recalibrated. has anyone else had this issue. Just overconcerned i guess.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 21, 2011 07:14PM
Joetown,

Best wishes brother! Sounds like you have a really good gameplan that is working well. 8 months is an eternity with this device. Be proud of yourself and keep doing what you are doing. As far as the "LJ" taking awhile to process a reading, I noticed with mine that as the temperatures got colder, it would seem to take longer. I would take my disposable mouthpiece inside and let it stay room temp overnight. See if this helps with how long it takes to process next time. I have also noticed when you rinse out with really cold water, it will take a little longer to process too. The important thing is that you said that you don't drink anymore. That is a hell of an accomplishment by itself! Be very proud of yourself. And no matter what DMV says about anything, that is an accomplishment they can't take from you. As far as false positives, just give yourself plenty of time for everything. Wake up a little earlier, eat breakfast and brush your teeth at least 30 minutes before you have to leave. Same thing while at work. Don't eat if you're going to drive/leave work within 30 minutes. That is where I am currently, I am trying to give myself larger windows of when I have to drive anywhere and from the last time I ate, smoked a cigarette, or drank a softdrink. I had to give up energy drinks and gum altogether. I am looking forward to December for you my friend! Keep up the good work!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 22, 2011 05:17AM
That is what i do at work and at home. i always brush my teeth first thing and rinse out twice before leaving the house. At work, i never use hand sanitizer and i never have any thing but water at least a half an hour before i leave. It has been raining and humid as hell here over the past few days, i think that is what is causing the delay. it did the same thing in the spring when it was raining a lot with high humidity. I am just glad i have gotten through the first eight months with no false readings and no problems at my checkups. I can only hope for the same over the next three and one half months.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 23, 2011 08:44AM
Had an interlock appointment today. The readout stated there was one fail, but the technician didn't have me sign anything. I am guessing that was because after my failure due to toothpaste I took it in the next day to have it checked out. I also received my drivers license back with the interlock restriction which was a good thing considering that up until this point I had a Limited Driving License. A tad over 6 months remaining and this sucker will be gone. I am going to do a dance in the parking lot when that day comes.

Oh yeah- Anyone who has court ordered limited drivers license who is going to get their regular license with restrictions. If you have Monitech time remaining, you have to take that vehicle to the licensing center and do a road test. I found that out the hard way.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 24, 2011 01:06PM
Has anyone received a letter about Monitech having a computer stolen and it compromising Monitech users personal information? If so, what are your thoughts on this?

Thank you for any insight you may have!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 24, 2011 03:51PM
got a letter yesterday, i really am concerned about it. odd that this could happen. we are so dependant upon monitech to keep our drivers license and yet they cant protect our private information. really does damage to the credibility of the operation that the state of nc puts so much faith in. i guess it just backs up the claim that no operation is error free and now because of someones negligence we are all comprimised. i wonder if the dmv will call them in for a hearing to see if they lose their license. sorry folks for the sarcasm but this just really bites. im so frustrated with this program but have no other alternative if i want to drive. i have a hearing on oct 31st because of 2 low readings on 2 rolling test. im just so angry about it. no warnings or fails, starting to feel harrassed and violated, havent drank in over 5 yrs and still getting the crappy end of the stick. cc 197
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 28, 2011 03:11AM
cc197, I am sorry to hear about your situation, especially with the DMV sending you a hearing letter considering you don't consume alcohol anymore. I recently (August 2011) got the LJ-1 installed in my truck for one year. My inquiry is as follows: I have never failed a rolling retest, neither have I tried to start my truck after failing the initial standing test. My issue, though, is that I recently failed an initial standing test (stupidly believing that the alcohol i had drank much more previously in the day had passed through my system) and I believe that it's a high BAC failure since the "Service" light is blinking (meaning I have to go to a monitech service center in 7 days). I didn't try and start my truck after this high BAC failure. Do you think that I will get in trouble for this? From what I have read on this thread, it seems that the DMV/Monitech is concerned with failures of rolling retests, or with trying to start the vehicle after blowing a warning or a failure reading only. I greatly appreciate any input or insight that anyone can provide, thank you!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 29, 2011 12:45PM
i have only had the small readings on the rolling test. my guess is that you will have to explain on a client responce form why you had the fail. i read in my manual the only real way to have a clean sample is to refrain from alcohol use for 24 hrs prior to testing.based on what i have read on this forum if you dont start your vehicle its not a viloation but i really dont know for sure. i havent drank in 5 yrs and still had something show up so i dont know what to think, its like being tried all over again for the whole dwi thing.



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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 27, 2011 09:17AM
So I call Monitech today to ask about the slowness of the pass readings on my rolling test and also my start up tests with the lj-1. The guy on the phone had no idea at all. All he told me is that i can take it in to have it checked if i wanted to. It still has been rainy and humid in my area, so I think all of the moisture may be the problem. Also i am rinsing with water beforem each start up and rolling test now, which may be the reason as well. Is 5 seconds a long wait for a pass for all of you other lj-1 users, b/c normaly it passes me quicker than that. i have been removing the mouthpiece when i am not in the truck, and that has not really helped.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 27, 2011 10:36AM
Aftermath lj1 i had both units in my vehicle the quick test is better as for picking up some one else drinking in your vehicle im not sure but it does sample the air in the vehicle and mite give you a quicker roling test after starting,i also have friends that drink i just tell then i sorry they cant ride with me drinking because i could loose my license because of them, most understand those that dont arnt my real friends ,think about it,
As for temp changes and humidity afecting test it is possable for slowness in readings whth the ols unit it mite take me several tries to get it to work in the winter the quick start must warm up first,
also im not sure about monitec telling you about fails it seems in last year they dont tell us i believe because it keeps arguments down in there office always look at your sheet see if it says fil on it and number of times i have 3 sheets that have no info at all from units that didnt record anything,this is why it is important to safe guard these reports in case of hearing as they become evidence if malfuntions with units,if they didnt record your test whats to say there accurate with your fails
i have had better starts and luck with quickstart than the LJ1
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 08, 2011 08:41PM
had my test at monitec so far every thing ok,only 40 days left of this ball and chain
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 11, 2011 07:13PM
Congrats friend! You're almost there!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 20, 2011 07:04AM
thanks to everyone for the words of encouragement. i was able to obtain a copy of the technicians notes from monitech home office along with my readings. this took numerous phone calls and speaking to about 5 different reps to finally get what i requested. each time i spoke to a rep they would send me the same thing, just a summary sheet showing the date and readings of 012 and 013 on rolling test.the lj1 never even gave a sign anything showed up. i finally called and requested every bit of information they had in my file and was referred to a supervisor and she sent it to me. on the techs note it does state that his professional opinion was that the readings were due to mouth contaminants because of the series of 0.00 readings before and after the violations and he believed they were not true bac readings. i have decided not to take a lawyer with me to the hearing. when the hearing officer restored my license 11 mths ago she told me that if i had to come back before her and i showed up with an attorney we would not have the hearing that day and it would escalate to a different level with an attorney present. my plan is to take the evidence i have and msds sheets for the cleaning products we use for detailing cars at the dealership i work at. having not drank in over 5 years and going thru this is very disappointing to me because i thought everything would be ok as long as i DID NOT drink anymore. obviously the consequences of drinking go long past the conviction of drinking and driving. im not going down without a fight. my hearing is on oct 31 (halloween) can it get any more crazy. thx cc197



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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 09, 2012 11:12AM
Thank you so much Aldo_Raine! I really appreciate your helpful response! I just called the Monitech office, and flat out asked about the Violations. She said it could be if you try to start the car without taking the quick test or something of that nature. (I couldn't hear very well what the other types of violations were because my son was playing drums upstairs, but I know not to worry now). She said not to worry about that and the #'s would probably go higher each time it's calibrated. *Phwew* I am breathing so much easier now. She also said exactly what you said and the Tufcat technician said - if you aren't asked to fill out any Non-Compliance by the technician at the calibration appointment, then you have nothing to worry about! Thank God! I am getting better with this thing, but do get totally flustered when I screw it up! Thanks again for your post, I really appreciate it. Will keep checking back to this forum it is really informative, and we all got in the same situation. The time will pass, at least we can drive. smiling smiley
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 21, 2013 04:39PM
i'm a college student in the triad area.....Ive gotten a DUI and had interlock installed on my car. There's a lot of useful info here (about how useless the legal system is), so thank you all for that. Today, I had my first failed start test. I had slept 7 hours after having some beers with my buddies. The interlock device freaked out and said i had a mandatory retest in 5 minutes. I waited 5 minutes and failed the next test too. This is my first fail test with it of any kind (had it for a month so far). I also used mouthwash pretty close to right before I left. And I read above that you can fail bc of heartburn/acid reflux.....which I have and am being treated for.....I can't believe that minor alcohol from the night prior could cause a fail. I was just leaving to go to class this morning at about 830. If anyone has any ideas about what could happen next (especially TurfCat), that would be much appreciated. After failing the 2 start tests (the second of which I only took because it told me it was mandatory), I left my vehicle, not having started it or driven anywhere. I would under no circumstance have tried to drive anywhere if I had thought I had alcohol in my system, especially after all I've been through with this and the toll it has taken on my grades, work, and life. Any advice or thoughts on what comes next would be appreciated.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 09, 2011 08:38AM
uncle dave congrats on being a short timer, i still have 6 yrs and 4 mths left. i have my hearing on oct 31 (halloween) i talked with an attorney and he wants to go to the hearing with me. i really cant decide what i should do. i dont want to make the hearing officer angry or do anything to send the wrong message by showing up with a lawyer but ialso realize that i only have one shot at keeping my license. the 2 false positives that i had were very low and i really dont know what caused them. i know for sure it wasnt alcohol since i havent drank in 5 yrs. i keep telling myself i have nothing to worry about but im also worried that i might say the wrong thing and lose my dl. the hearing officer that i have is a very stern but fair lady and i hope i am worrying for nothing as i have nothing to hide. anybody out there with any advice thx cc197
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 11, 2011 07:12PM
cc197,

I am wishing you the best my friend. I am guessing that you are on a 0.00 bac restriction based on your time left on the interlock. An attorney is not a bad thing to have as long as he/she is worth a damn. I am on the same bac restriction of (0.00). I find it odd that they "cannot set their interlocks to reflect this". I lost my license mainly because I had false positives under .020 which is where their warning light begins. To this day, I still don't have a clue what caused them. Anything under .020, the "LJ-1" would give me a green light that I passed and for me to continue driving. BAC results usually fell within .010 to .013 I feel your pain about not drinking and still being accused of it. I asked as nice as I could for different technicians in different locations to adjust this "entrapment" flaw so I could stand a fighting chance of understanding what was causing these false positives. All 3 technicians declined that the company could change the warning or fail to 0.001 The only other ideas I could come up with to protect myself was volunteering to wear a SCRAM bracelet. This device is suppose to be accurate in detecting alcohol 24/7 and is closly monitored and documented. Unfortunately this device costs about $12.00 a day. Thats $720.00 out of my pocket for 60 days. Since I don't drink, I would have no problem wearing it. I just can't afford it. I would even take a polygraph if permitted.

Here is something else that I find very odd. When I finally got my license back, I upgraded to the "Quicktest". When I was trained on the new device in their office, he had a quicktest unit already set up for me to train on. When I blew into it, it actually had a BAC readout on the LCD screen telling me that I blew a (0.00) I really liked this because it helps out people like us who are on a zero tolerance restriction by allowing us to see what could be causing false positives when they occur, not up to 60 days after the event. This way we can prevent them by understanding what caused it. I made a comment to the tech that this was a very helpful feature on the quicktest. He smiled and told me this option isn't available to clients. This device will tell me when my next appointment is by date and time by scrolling through a menu but it won't let me see my BAC when I take a test. Now I have to ask you my friend, why is it so important that Monitech and DMV hide our readings until calibration?

cc197, I know there are a lot of words here with no real advice, just somethings for you and your attorney to think about. Unfortunately we fall into a "guilty until proven innocent" situation. I have my first calibration since getting my license back and I am scared to death and I don't drink. I wish you success with your hearing and hope that the hearing officer looks past your distant past and sees what you have accomplished the last 5 years. Keep your head up high my friend and I look forward to hearing good news from you!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 11, 2011 07:32PM
One last thing, I just want to clear up any misconceptions that I think that this is a conspiracy. No, I don't feel it is a conspiracy, I think that this is a business. What is it to them that time is unfairly added on to someone who is innocent? Its job security!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 14, 2011 07:47AM
When you are doing a start-up test with your ignition interlock and you have ANY alcohol on your breath whether it is mouthwash or whatever, will you get a pass or a warning?
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 15, 2011 07:09AM
bs1234-

The device doesn't distinguish between sources of alcohol-if there's alcohol present, it will detect it. The level/concentration/BAC is what determines whether or not you get a pass, warn, or fail. Read above for more info. No one can tell you what your test result will be after rinsing with mouthwash after X number of minutes, etc.

I'd recommend not using mouthwash with any alcohol in it during your time with the IID. I would also highly, highly recommend buying a personal breathalyzer and not pushing your luck when attempting to drive after drinking, either a few hours after or the night before. It's not worth the stress.

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 15, 2011 07:55AM
Thanks for the reply. Will you get a warn light if you blow anything other than .00? If so does this show up on your bi-monthly report along with violations, fails, high fails, etc?
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 15, 2011 08:20AM
Warn/Fail thresholds vary depending on your situation, and I don't know the exact numeric levels. I believe high fail is 0.08 no matter what. All test results (pass/warn/fail/high fail) will show up on your bimonthly download summary.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 17, 2011 05:21AM
I went to get my sample head checked last week. The tech tested it and checked the calibration, and he found nothing wrong with it. He checked all of my tests and said that i blew nothing but strait zeros, nothing at all. he ssaid to just keep a close eye on it, and that if it gets worse,he would replace it. He did tell me that the threshold on my LJ-1 is set at .01 since I am a one year NC Court System participant. He said anything over .01 would register as a warn for me, and that anything un der that is not a true alcohol sample, but a contamination from food or drink. I found that interesting based off of what a lot of you guys have been through. i believe this guy, and i feel that the real problem is the DMV going after people with such super low readings. Of course, maybe since i am a one year first timer, my situation for a violation is different than those that are on three and seven year go rounds.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 18, 2011 12:30PM
I have a quick question. I went through a bad time in my life from 03-05 and got 3 dui's. Anyway.. i got through it and quit drinking and have not had a drink since. I have a restoration hearing set for next wed. I am wondering what to expect from the hearing..and if i get my license back what to expect from the interlock..thanks
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 19, 2011 08:09AM
I would just like to wish chriscraft197 well and send him vibes of encouragement before his DMV hearing-I believe it's supposed to happen soon. Good luck, man!!

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 19, 2011 05:04PM
I also wish the best. Has anyone gone to a hearing for rolling warns and kept their license?
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 24, 2011 08:46AM
hi guys sorry i havent posted for some time my computer crashed just got another one ,Firefighter i also had to have a hearing i brought 3 witness and they all vouched for me i felt it was better not to use a spouse of relative there credability with dmv isn't that good co worker or close neighbor is better dont take any one with dwi driving record make sure u havent drank in a long time they can tell dont lie ,the hearing officer told me that most people dont get there license back very easy i was lucky ,

bs1234 i had 1 rolling warning and i kept my copys of the results i came out ok just be carefull,dont try to bull these people in gastonia you have hearing at dmv office mrs colby will check your vehicle and watch u blow , also cary water to wash your mouth out after eating be sure to clean your vehicle out a dirty interior sends message that u dont really care and its red flag too them,im a mechanic i had a warning from carb cleaner falling off my seat and spraying in my truck she said that will make a false warning
i did keep my licensa i had very low levels well below a. 01,

chriscraft as for taking an attorney with you it is your right to have one but they dont like them i have doubts if he would help u in your case it seems you have all your paper work in order and i think we had same herring officer she was stern but fair,
she is correct when u have an attorney he represents you and you should be aware that you dont talk it does go above simple hearing,i would ask my atty, if you can appeal if you lose at the hearing,attorneys like money so you mite get an answer like u need me to defend you
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 24, 2011 11:58AM
Thanks for the info! I quit drinking close to five years ago and haven't looked back, so that's that's not a problem. I have my wife, mother, and captain from my dept. going with as witnesses. Those are the only three that have a day to day insight into my life. I started working on a emergency medical degree 4 yrs ago. and had to go through a similar hearing when i got my first cert. whould it be beneficial to carry those certs. with me? I guess I'm wondering what they are looking for.. what determines weather they give me my license back? I feel i have a pretty good chance...Yes i had some problems drinking...i was injuried in an industrial accident five years ago was burned over 70% of my body...it made me take a step back and realize what was really important in life. After my recovery i decided i wanted to get into the medical field to help people and that has been my life since..Not having my license has been a real bear and i need this to move forward with my life...i hope what i have accomplished will be enough to have a good outcome. My hearing is the day after tomorrow. I will let you know what happens.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 24, 2011 09:58PM
i have not had a drink in 17 months and finally got my license back on 5-26 after about 5 years without. on the morning of 5-26 around 11am i had a start test, as i was going to the dmv to get my drivers license, and it was a pass. at 11:10am i was asked to do a run test and a "low alcohol" reading was detected (again i am on the way to the dmv). i was issued my dl after hours of waiting and taking all the required driving and computer tests. when i went in for my appt i was asked to write an explanation for the reading, again i stated i was on my way to dmv, i had received a pass just 5 min before,i don't drink, and i listened very carefully to my hearing officer about rinsing with water and keeping a log of any false readings. it is 10-24 and i just received a revocation letter from the dmv!! this is completely unfair. what else can a person do?? did they even take the time to read my explanation? even if i did still drink, im not stupid enough to drink on my way to get my drivers license!! what a joke.....why didn't i at least have a hearing to let me explain or defend myself?



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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 24, 2011 11:00PM
i also received a letter from monitech in sept stating that a computer had been stolen from their office, and all my info may have been compromised. what kind of company is this? they really don't seem to have much credibility, and there seems to be piles of evidence to prove so.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 25, 2011 07:11AM
ryerob 74 i think you will have to request a hearing if you are on a automatic suspension for a violation. if you are on a conditional restoration they will notify you to appear for a hearing to see if you have violated your agreement. hope this helps. cc197
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 25, 2011 08:40AM
Ryerob 74: Congrats to you on turning your life around and attempting to move forward. I wish you luck on getting your dl back and with your career as well.

CC 197: I hope your hearing on monday goes well for you. You deserve to keep your dl and I hope the DMV does not rob you of this.

Today i had problems starting my truck not because of the interlock, but because a security system in al Gm trucks called the "Passlock" system malfunctoned and would not let me start my truck. It has happened before, even before I had my lj-1 installed. You have to wait ten minutes for it to reset, and then start the truck, which i did. It just brings up massive anxiety anytime i have to start my vehicle. This forum helps a lot, to communicate with others that go through the same problems. I have five weeks before I get my full license back (on a court granted work permit right now), and then 45 more days after that before I can get the interlock removed for good. It had been a miserable year, but it is barring any technical setback, allmost over. If I would not get in trouble for not driving my vehicle enough, I would just ride to work with my girlfriend every day. I wish all of you the best of luck with the remainder of your time.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 31, 2011 05:02PM
hi everyone, just a note to let everyone know that my hearing went very well. the hearing officer was very positive and was impressed with how well prepared i was for the hearing. a big thanks to you uncle dave for all the information and support you gave based on your experience. she watched me do the test and we went back to her office. she looked at the info i provided and the techs notes. she questioned me about what i thought the readings could be coming from. i told her from not rinsing my mouth from a soft drink or something i had eaten. i told her i had not drank any alcohol in over 5 yrs and i was 200% sure it wasnt from alcohol consumption. she went over the operation of the machine i have and said that i needed to be careful about testing with any residue or aftertaste in my mouth. she thanked me for my diligence about being in compliance and told me i was keeping my license. i think the 6 weeks of waiting was the killer for me. again thx to everyone for the support. special thx to aldo raine for starting this thread it has been such a avenue of relief of frustration for me. i will keep posting with any info i can and will offer any support i can cc197
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 31, 2011 06:39PM
That is great news, cc197! Glad to hear you Halloween wasn't as spooky as it could have been.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 02, 2011 04:46PM
Congrats CC197. I hope you time goes as quickly as possible.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 03, 2011 05:09PM
I found out today I am going to have a hearing coming up that is yet to be scheduled. I had one rolling warn of .010 on one day and a .017 two weeks later. I do not drink. I was wondering what attorney is the best in this situation?



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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 04, 2011 03:42PM
bs1234 its different in each state. if you are in north carolina as i am then you need to make sure that you have all of your paperwork from each visit to monitech. make sure you have good notes from any problems that you have had with your device. if you have the lj1 unit it looks better for you if you switch to the quick test for better accuracy. the hearing officer will be interesed to see if you are on top of your situation and know the rules of your program and how long you must have the device. i would not take a lawyer, go and be truthful, i think the hearing officers are trained on what to look for to see if you show signs of alcohol consumption. you definitely would not want to go to your hearing after a night out on the town so to speak. the readings you spoke of are similar to the ones i had. good luck my friend i wish you all the best. in the word of aldo raine it seems we are all in this together. no truer words ever spoken when it comes to dealing with a dwi and the dmv. cc197
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 04, 2011 05:06PM
I am in NC. The DMV letter had a suspension date on it. I requested a hearing and the suspension was lifted pending the outcome. Was yours a similar situation? I am hoping I have another calibration before the hearing. I had my head unit switched out because of other problems I guess. I have had no issues since. I hope this will look good to the hearing officer. I have been paying more attention to having my mouth clear before blowing.



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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 05, 2011 06:25PM
bs1234 if you have the lj1 i would pay the extra money(32.00) it takes to change over to the quick test device, it shows that you are concerned about the accuracy of your test. get your readings from monitech and hopefully they show you had 0.00 before and after your low readings that showed up. specifically ask for the technicians notes, they will not send them to you if you dont ask. the hearing officer will have that but you will not. i had so many problems out of the lj1 when i pointed this out to the hearing officer she seemed to be in agreement even though she didnt say anything. you will have to do a test in front of the officer, make sure you rinse with water in front of the officer. i think they are interested to see that you are on top of your program and that you are genuinely concerned and you have a healthy level of respect for the device. i had 3 dwis and went 5 yrs without a license, i am on a conditional restoration which means i cant have any level of alcohol present at all. i havent drank in forever (over 5 yrs.) i was adamant to make sure she understood this while being respectful at the same time. good luck to you my friend i wish you all the best. im sure i left something out. ask any questions you want and i will respond. its such a stressful situation, cc197
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 06, 2011 06:43AM
I am on a 0.00 level also. I lost them for one year. I was only told my license were suspended. I had to request a hearing. I'm not sure what the difference is. I know some people are simply asked to come in for a hearing to see if they violated. I do no drink and did not read the book as I should have. I thought I was fine. I did eat and drink sodas while driving. I thought if the car runs you are not in violation. Had I known of any mouth contamanents I would have simply waited. I have since refrained from this and I am sure my calibration appointment will reflect this. Did you take in your results from you most recent report after the readings to the hearing? What county were you in?
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 07, 2011 04:28PM
I hadn't seen this before, but Monitech has a FAQs section on their web page that may be helpful: FAQs



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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 08, 2011 04:58PM
Thanks for the replies to my situation. The letter I received in the mail was an alcohol violation due to my 0.00 BAC regulation. The Monitech results were what caused this action. I do not even drink. I did use mouthwash from time to time. I have also eaten and drank sodas while driving. I thought the machine was calibrated to a 0.00. What is the purpose for having a machine calibrated at a higher level. I thought when the car cranks you are at a 0.00 BAC. I am not sure what to do. I had two warns, 0.010 and 0.017. Any experience with this would be appreciated.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 09, 2011 04:32AM
I don't understand exactly what's going on in your situation. I thought that in order to be on a 0.00 BAC restriction, one had to either have had multiple DUIs and have the interlock for more than one year, or be under the age of 21. Are you in either camp? Also, when did you hear about the violations? Did you just randomly get a letter from DMV in the mail or did you hear about it at your download/monitoring appointment at Monitech?


bs1234 Wrote:
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> Thanks for the replies to my situation. The
> letter I received in the mail was an alcohol
> violation due to my 0.00 BAC regulation. The
> Monitech results were what caused this action. I
> do not even drink. I did use mouthwash from time
> to time. I have also eaten and drank sodas while
> driving. I thought the machine was calibrated to
> a 0.00. What is the purpose for having a machine
> calibrated at a higher level. I thought when the
> car cranks you are at a 0.00 BAC. I am not sure
> what to do. I had two warns, 0.010 and 0.017.
> Any experience with this would be appreciated.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 09, 2011 05:48AM
I was made aware of the two violations at my calibration. The DMV then sent me a letter about violating the 0.00 BAC requirement. I only have my interlock for one year because my dui's were four years apart. In this case you are revoked for one year and one year interlock.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 09, 2011 07:11AM
I see. Unfortunately, I don't have any more guidance to give having not had a hearing (at least yet). chriscraft197 and uncledave have given valuable input above and may be able to give you more pointers.

Good luck with it,

AR

bs1234 Wrote:
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> I was made aware of the two violations at my
> calibration. The DMV then sent me a letter about
> violating the 0.00 BAC requirement. I only have
> my interlock for one year because my dui's were
> four years apart. In this case you are revoked
> for one year and one year interlock.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 09, 2011 12:23PM
bs1234 what device do you have, the lj1 or the quick test. the quick test is much better and user friendly. the lj1 is the older model of the 2 and seems to give more problems to folks like us who are in this situation. the best advice i would give you is be respectful to the hearing officer and point out that you do not drink anymore, i think they understand that the machine is not perfect and are more interested in how diligent you are to stay on top of the program you are required to participate in to drive. your readings were low and hopefully you have 0.00 before and after the violations that were picked up. if you are on a conditional restoration as i am with 0.00 requirement then i will be called to a hearing for any violation. i have to keep my device for 7 long years. one down and six to go. if you had to request a hearing then your hearing should be of the same procedure as mine was. i think you will be fine, remember we put our selves in this and we just have to deal with it. keep your head up and dont go down without a fight. i think the results of your hearing will depend on your demeanor and how you present your case. good luck to you. cc197
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 09, 2011 04:58PM
Thanks for the responses. I have the LJ1.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 13, 2011 09:34AM
i hope to have mine out fri and license with no restriction on thur not sure if dmv will make me wait till monttec does finel down load any one know if that is how it works
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 13, 2011 03:55PM
Glad to see that you're on the home stretch, uncledave. I would call DMV and ask, but in my situation I got the de-install done first (Monitech gave me a de-install certificate/report that I had to give to DMV before they issued my license). Your scenario might be different, though as far as how the procedure goes.





uncledave Wrote:
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> i hope to have mine out fri and license with no
> restriction on thur not sure if dmv will make me
> wait till monttec does finel down load any one
> know if that is how it works
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 13, 2011 05:45PM
ar im not sure myself thats what monitec said get license the uninstall so we will see but to be honest i would think dmv wants final down load it never ends the guessing game ,its hard to believe i had this ball and chain 3 years ,funny i mite even miss it some lol
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 13, 2011 08:21PM
Ultimately it's up to DMV so I'd give them a jingle on the tele to be sure. And honestly, I'd call twice to make sure you get the same story. I don't believe that DMV staff intentionally misleads anyone. I think that interlocks aren't an everyday situation they deal with and sometimes they're just not sure of the procedure.

I understand why you're nervous about the final download, but it's no different from any of the ones you've already had. And you have a good relationship with hearing officers (judging from what you've written) and know the machinery and system well.

You should feel good about yourself for getting through this. I know that ultimately we put ourselves in these positions, but as we all can attest, IIDs are very stressful and (at least for me) the cause of much anxiety. Like, real anxiety, health problem causing anxiety. The interlock was WAY more of a punishment than I expected, and if I knew what it would be like to have one, I like to think I truly believe that I wouldn't have chosen to drive. Stupid, stupid. But it's done now, and all I can do is live my life better and make wiser choices.

I've had mine off for several weeks now, and even though I still, from time to time, worry just a bit about DMV calling me in, it's way better to have it off your car. I am gradually becoming less hyper-vigilant about driving when it comes to food, coffee, soda, etc. Nobody else knows what it's like to have an interlock, other than those of us who have had them. I'm not trying to be dramatic, but you all know how it is.

It is an accomplishment to make it through with your sanity (and license). Good job, uncledave.

AR

uncledave Wrote:
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> ar im not sure myself thats what monitec said get
> license the uninstall so we will see but to be
> honest i would think dmv wants final down load it
> never ends the guessing game ,its hard to believe
> i had this ball and chain 3 years ,funny i mite
> even miss it some lol
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 14, 2011 08:28AM
thanks aldo yes it has been a strugle no better excitement than to do a rolling test and have a warning fail, its turning cold so we have to wait for it to warm up,then most times have to bloe twice i think first blow warms unit up from our breath, who knowes like you ill still contribuate to this feed and try to help others i have scheduled my time for thur for restriction to be lifted from license then fri for removal if it dosent work thur then fri after noon any way it will be gone i can still drive unrestricted because of dates for restriction just have to explain to cops that restriction expired im sure all will be well thanks so much for starting this forem uncle dave
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 14, 2011 03:29PM
It's been a long time since I have been here. I have read a lot of good news in the latest posts. First off, congrats to AR for having the IID removed! Congrats to CC197 for a job well done with your hearing. Way to go my friend. Way to keep your cool and handle things with the best intent! Uncledave, I couldn't be more excited for you! I thank you and AR for the best of advice and experience that you've shared with us. This forum has helped more people than you could possibly realize. I apologize for venting in a few posts that I have left here but I thank you both for positive thinking and encouragement. God bless you!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 15, 2011 06:12PM
I was wondering if it is legal to drive while waiting for the NC DMV hearing for a alcohol violation with the interlock. I was sent a letter saying my license was suspended. The letter said I could keep my license pending the outcome of the hearing. I had to request a hearing. I requested the hearing through a letter. I just wanted to know if it is legal to drive while I am waiting for the hearing?



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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 15, 2011 06:39PM
to be honest i believe it would be ok depends on what police officer pulls you over and if dmv gives you iome to reply it mite be good idea to call them,
it would depend on how bad i needed to drive with my record i was scard to drive and end up with another year with out license
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 15, 2011 09:32PM
I received the dreaded letter from DMV this month too. I was just a month away from getting the interlock off after 3 years and now I got the letter about suspending my license for a year for an alcohol violation. I've sent in the letter to the DMV to request a hearing. It was just the usual equipment failure and I haven't drunk alcohol at all in the 3 years I've had it on. For those of you who have been through an actual hearing, did you at least talk to a lawyer before going to the hearing? Do you think you should take a lawyer with you to be sure they don't railroad you? Does the hearing officer seem more hostile if you take a lawyer? What is the thing about having to go out to your car and do something with the interlock in front of the hearing officer? I've never been through this and have no idea what to expect. Do you take witnesses to vouch for you? I don't want to lose my license but I don't want to go in there unprepared and get my license suspended either. Any help or tips would be greatly appreciated. I haven't heard back yet when the hearing will be.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 16, 2011 07:29AM
bs1234, once your letter is recieved your hearing will normally be about six weeks later. when i had my hearing i did consult with a lawyer. he was going to charge me several hundred dollars to attend the hearing with me. when i had my restoration hearing the hearing officer told me that if i had to come in for another hearing that we would not have the hearing if i showed up with a lawyer, it would be rescheduled and it would escalate to a different level. i decided not to have a lawyer present. when you go in the hearing officer will swear you in and ask you questions about the unit and if you are familiar with your particular device and the operation manual you recieved when it was installed. you will have to go out to your vehicle and perform a test in front of the officer. i think they do this to see if you are on top of your program. make sure to have a bottle of water and rinse your mouth in front of the officer without asking if you should. when you get back inside reiterate how long it has been since you have drank and any issue you have had with the device. they will ask you what you think caused the violation and just be honest and say what you think while being respectful at the same time. thats about it my friend, i wish you well. these times are stressful, but we will get through them. i am required to have mine for 6 more years and im sure at some point and time i will have to for another hearing as these things dont like cold weather and are just aggravating sometimes. i guess the best advice i could give is remain calm and dont ever even attempt to blow in that unit if you have had anything to drink in the last 24 hours. rinse your mouth before each test and be honest with hearing officer.one more thing, i dont think you will need any witnesses and show genuine concern. good luck cc197
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 16, 2011 01:21PM
cc197 - Thanks so much for the info. I have heard so many horror stories that I don't know what to expect. Like others I've had lots of false readings and lockouts over the 3 years. This is my third unit so that shows they sometimes have to change them out because of failures. I've been checking other forums and saw that I can send a form to the DMV so that I can get my entire record of readings from Monitech. I'll get that so that I can take it with me and show how many false readings I've had over the 3 years.
I saw on the website for the attorney, Bill Powers, that DMV sends out lots of violation notices right before people get their license back. If they want to see you in person to make sure that you've changed and are now sober then why don't they just make that a requirement and not stress everyone with these notices about your license being revoked.
I'll put a notice back on the forum after the hearing so others will know what happened. Sure hope to get it off after the hearing. All of this happened back in 2003 and I want this nightmare behind me - forever!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 18, 2011 07:55AM
Does anyone have a lawyer they would recommend in the Raleigh/Durham area? I've decided I want to go talk to one for sure about the hearing. I don't think I'll take one to the actual hearing but I need someone to help me.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 26, 2012 04:16PM
I had DWIs in 1989, 1996, & 1997. I also had a couple of DWLRs so I didn't have a drivers license for 15 years until I recently got a conditional license and had to have the Monitech device installed in my car. One afternoon when I went to start the car, the device gave a warning of low breath alcohol content and said that if the level went up, I would be asked to pull over or words to that effect. Then it said to start the car. I assumed by the audible message that everything was okay provided my breath alcohol level did not go up. I drove to Waynesville that day and the next month when it was time for the system to be calibrated I was asked by the service person about it and shortly thereafter received a letter in the mail asking me to report for a hearing. Even then, I didn't expect there to be a major problem, but to my surprise, the hearing officer said that they were taking my license again because I had violated the conditional agreement. I tried to explain to her that the message from Monitech system had implied that it was okay to drive so long as my BrAC did not increase. The hearing officer asked me if I had received a handbook from Monitech, which I had not. When I went to have the Monitech device uninstalled last week, I did get a handbook and read the section about "If the unit indicates a WARN". I quote from that section.. "This means that a low level of Alcohol has been detected, but not enough to fail the breath test, based on the Fail Level set by your State Agency. You will be allowed to start your vehicle, however you should understand that if your Breath Alcohol Content (BrAC) rises as you are driving, you may be required to stop the vehicle."

Basically this is the same as the audible message gave me. When I went to the hearing, I tried to explain this to the hearing officer but she said that I had agreed not to drive with any alcohol on my breath. My question is, Was this device not supposed to be set at 0% (if that is the Fail Level set by the State Agency? At the very least, the audible message should have let me know there was a possibility that I might lose my license if I drove, and I certainly would not have driven! I feel like I have been duped into driving and trusted the Monitech device (to whom I was paying $120 every two months) to do their job. Was this device set up wrong at installation? I am being told that I will not be eligible for a hearing for another 4 years! I just think that this is unfair in the way that I was led to believe that it was okay to drive the car and then they take my license away for believing that the Monitech device was doing what it was supposed to do. I feel stupid for violating the agreement but I assure you, I would never have driven if I had ANY indication that I might lose my license again. I would have much rather the device not even let me start the car instead of implying that it was only a warning and telling me to "Start engine now".

I went through treatment in 2006 and have tried my best to get my life back on track. I returned to school in 2007 and received a Masters degree from Western Carolina University in 2008. I have continued to take classes and when I got the conditional license back, I began looking for a job in hopes that I could once again be a contributing citizen. My heart is broken that this happened and I feel that I was "tricked" into thinking that it was okay for me to drive that day. Please let me know if there is anything I can do or any way that you may be able to help me. I would truly appreciate any advice or suggestions you could give.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
March 02, 2012 06:58AM
You said false readings... Did you have to fill out a colpliance report and see a compliance officer for those false reading's and if so how did that work out?
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 07, 2012 03:48PM
Just had my hearing last week and they said they would send a letter in the mail. Do you remember how long it was before you received it? Did you have a good idea when you left that they wouldn't be suspending your license?
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 07, 2012 06:45PM
Hanging On, I hope you retain your license. Did you have warns or fails? Did you take a attorney with you to the hearing?
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 08, 2012 01:32PM
They weren't warns or fails. They were running tests around 0.01 so you don't even know about them since the interlock says PASS. Also you get notified so many months after the incidents that you don't remember the day and what you were doing. I talked to a lawyer and he said they were so low he didn't think I would need to hire him. Now I'm not so sure. I came out feeling really upset and having to wait 10 days on the results is bad too. I'll post back on here what happens.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 08, 2012 12:44PM
HangingOn Wrote:
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> Just had my hearing last week and they said they
> would send a letter in the mail. Do you remember
> how long it was before you received it? Did you
> have a good idea when you left that they wouldn't
> be suspending your license?

Keeping my fingers crossed for you. Good luck.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 04, 2012 02:38PM
I recently completed my interlock requirement and finally got the device removed from my car. During my first few months in the program, I had a fail (false positive) on a rolling restest. I had to fill out noncompliance paperwork. Never heard anything from the DMV. Based on my own experience, research and what I've gathered from friends that have also dealt with this nightmare scenario, the DMV handles these failures on a case by case basis. One thing that I believe helped me stay "under the radar" so to speak is I did not volunteer any incriminating information in my noncompliance report. Simply documented what the device did and stated the fail was obviously a glitch. Assume anything you put in writing can and will be used against you later. From personal experience from a prior DWI case that I fought and won years ago, I can tell you that some DMV hearing officers will be professional, polite, cooperative, and give you the benefit of the doubt while others are self righteous pompous assed crusaders. You won't know in advance which you'll be dealing with, so assume the worst and hope for the best. Good luck and keep your head held high. I made it, you will too.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 05, 2012 05:31AM
mrjedhyde

Glad to hear you finished. Were you a 1 year client sent by the courts? I have been told by lawyers that they normaly do not worry about the first timers unless you have multilple rolling fails, that it is the 3 and 7 year clients that they look at closely becuase they are DMV clients and they have a .000 requirement. Also, did the device give you the fail, or did you not know until your monitoring appointment? I am just wondering as I have only 2 weeks left and i get it out and thankfully I have never had any violations in my almost one year. I just have a curiosity about how they handle different clients.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 08, 2012 01:04PM
Hello - I had my Monitech device installed at the end of Oct. 2011, for one year. I had the re-calibration appointment mid-way through December. On my "report card" I had one Fail. I had a dentist appointment at 9:30am, blew in the thing at 9:00am after brushing my teeth and using mouthwash, which I know we're not supposed to do, but I was in a hurry and should have just cancelled the appointment. Anyway FAIL! So I cancelled my dental appointment and went the next day. Nothing was said to me at the Monitech appointment in December. My question is, after reading this forum, my report said I had a bunch of "Violations" and some "Faults". Does anyone know what constitutes a Violation? Or a fault? I will ask at my next re-calibration appointment in February, but don't want to call and raise any red flags asking my question.

Also, my battery was drained at the airport parking garage, even though I removed the Monitech unit like they said you should do if leaving the car for more than 5 days. I get very nervous disconnecting the unit - as I did at the airport. Had to keep re-reading the manual until I finally got it, and was about in a panic and about to cry! I don't cry too easily. This thing makes me a nervous wreck! I had a 7 hour flight delay returning to CLT, and couldn't drive myself home from the airport as we got in past 10pm. Had someone drive me the next day to get my car and: dead-as-a-doornail. It took 2 service trucks simultaneously jump starting my car to get it up and running again; one truck alone couldn't get my car to start. The service guy at the airport said my battery is fine, but if I have this Monitech on my car for so long, I should invest in a battery charger; and not a cheap one, a $100. one. I went to the auto parts store and they checked my battery and said it was fine. The man there tightened up my clamps that attach to the battery and said they were loose. I don't know if they were loose before the airport incident or not.

Well, this past week, I went out in the morning to start my car and dead-as-a-doornail again. My car is housed in my garage. It's not heated, but it is a garage. This is NC we're talking about. I had something really important to do at that early hour, and couldn't go to it. So humiliating and embarressing and frustrating. Had AAA come out, and we had quite a time jump starting the car, as the battery was drained all the way and couldn't get any juice to the Monitech to even start the Quick Test. I have a QT model (the new one). I called Monitech while AAA was there because there was no other way I was going to be able to get my car started. The Monitech lady said to take the mouthpiece off and keep it in my hands and blow on it to warm it up. It's "cold" she said. (I had been getting "Invalid Sample" a lot in the mornings, and this is because it is cold). She said to take the unit inside the house at night when it's cold out. Definitely take the mouthpiece off and get it warmed up before you try to use it if you don't want to get the Invalid Sample message. The AAA guy had the jumper cables on my battery for probably at least 25 to 30 minutes before the Monitech unit finally woke up. Then we were able to jump-start the car. AAA ran a diagnostic on my vehicle while he was in my driveway and also said my battery is fine. When he left, i drove to the Auto parts store and bought a battery charger, which I am scared to death to use. I don't like connecting electrical things with all those amps.

I am very glad to see this forum and my bottom line question is. What constitutes a "Violation"??? I had one FAIL, no WARNINGS, and no High FAILs; but I am still paranoid? Anyone know? I'm scheduled to get my unit removed around Halloween this year (2012). Will keep you posted on what happens. Thanks for any info any of you might have. And Good Luck to everyone with this horrible device!



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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 08, 2012 07:32PM
Anxiety-

Based on your post, I seriously doubt that you have anything to worry about. Even though I haven't ever seen it spelled out in writing, I have never heard of anyone on a 1-year interlock restriction getting called in for a hearing with DMV for any kind of violation (pass, warn, etc.) unless they were specifically told about it and asked to write an explanation for it (for submittal to DMV) at their calibration appointment. Basically, as it was explained to me by an attorney, the written explanation (aka client response form, non-compliance paperwork, etc.) is part of an affidavit Monitech prepares for DMV when they are reporting a non-compliance event. It's like the Monitech technician turfcat91 (who seems credible) wrote above-if you weren't asked to fill out paperwork, you don't have anything to worry about. If you check out the FAQ on Monitech's web site, you can basically connect the dots and see that it corroborates the above.

Also, I was very clearly and specifically told by a technician not to worry about the text block on the bimonthly calibration report that has X number of "Violations," "faults," etc. (what you mentioned in the first paragraph of your post), so no need to worry about that, either.

Hope that helps. Don't sweat it, you're fine. The time goes by faster than you think it will.

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 09, 2012 09:34AM
hanging on, did your hearing officer not give you any indication at all at the comclusion of your hearing. when i had my hearing she gave me her decision at the conclusion of the hearing. i hope they rule in your favor, did you take a test at your vehicle in front of the officer. it concerns me that you are waiting for a decision through the mail. as much as i hate to say it, that is not a good sign. did you have a good feeling when you left the hearing or were you feeling like they didnt believe what you said. at my first restoration hearing in 2009 they did not give me a decision at the hearing and told me i would be notified by mail. i recieved a letter on the 10th day after my hearing saying that my license would not be restored. i had to wait another year for another hearing and got my license back the 2nd time. again at that 2nd hearing the officer gave me her decision at the close of the hearing. i hope it turns out ok for you my friend, it seems we never know what to expect when it comes to the dmv
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 14, 2012 11:31PM
I got the letter this week and it was great news -- I get to keep my license!!! My interlock was on for 3 years and had been removed before the hearing so I didn't have to do anything with one in front of the hearing officer. I did consult an attorney but he thought since all the non-compliance readings were around .01 that I didn't need an attorney at the hearing. However, he did say I needed to get all the stuff together I could to prove what I had been doing on those days (work, errands, travel, food, etc). All three readings were rolling tests around supper time and I believe they were from food/drink from going through the drive-thru for a quick supper. I first had Monitech send me a "non-compliance report" and "violation summary" for the 2-month download period DMV complained about. I then had Monitech send me a "logger" sheet for the entire day for the three incidents on my non-compliance report so that I could try to look at debit/credit receipts to try to remember that day. (Monitech charges $5 for every 25 pages of data.) The DMV definitely asked lots of questions about the days on the non-compliance report but also asked about the other incidents on the violation summary. I wasn't prepared for those because they were not a violation of my restriction not to drive a car with BAC above .00 but I got asked about those too and couldn't really remember much about them because it had been so long. At the end, the hearing officer just said I would get a letter in the mail within 10 days and I came away with a feeling of dread and had no idea which way it would go. I've finally finished up all my requirements for suspension (4 yrs) and interlock (3 really long years) and you can bet there will be no more DWIs on my record!!

SOME WORDS OF ADVICE - For those of you out there with your interlocks still on, I would suggest that you ask the Monitech technician at EVERY download if there were any violations or if a non-compliance report was generated -- before you leave. I mistakenly believed that if the tech didn't say anything about the download then there were no problems on it. The catch with the .00-.02 readings is that they are a PASS and you have no idea that it has been flagged as a violation. I'd had some problems in the past with having to take it in within the 3-day period. One was because of getting the car serviced and the mechanic left the engine running and just ignored it when the running test was called for. Another couple of times was when the battery died on my car and it caused strange readings. I also got totally locked out and needed it towed when the unit decided to malfunction completely but I was able to get Monitech to replace that unit. In those instances, I was able to fill out the form at Monitech that explained the problem and didn't have to worry about DMV hearings and whether I should spend the money for a lawyer. If I could have just filled out a form to explain those rolling tests at the time when I could have easily remembered the day it would not have been a big deal. If I had known that they call you in for a DMV hearing if a non-compliance report is generated then I would have made sure at the download that I turned in the forms and kept that information handy in case the DMV decided to suspend my license for it.

Good luck to those of you out there with the interlock still on. It feels like having a ball and chain removed the day they take it off your car.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 16, 2012 04:01AM
HangingOn-

That is great news! Glad to hear things went your way.

Your post raises an interesting question: for the readings that you got called into a hearing for, were you asked to fill out non-compliance paperwork or not? It appears that you had filled out papers before, but I'm not sure whether or not they were for the readings you had the hearing for.

If not, that would be the first time I have heard/read/seen someone get called for a hearing without having to fill out non-compliance paperwork...

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 12, 2012 05:48PM
I wanted to update you guys on my hearing. I received my suspension letter around the first part of November. I requested a hearing. I finally got my hearing letter today. The hearing is not until June. I have the interlock for one year. I am scheduled to have it removed in August. The last calibration was complete 0's. I am hoping I am under their radar and will have five more months to prove I do not drink anymore. I hope they see the first month I had a lot of issues with the machine. Any thoughts?



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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 14, 2012 11:54PM
bs1234 - June is a really long time to wait for a hearing but you are probably right in that if the violations are all at the beginning of your time and the remaining ones are fine they should see there was a problem in learning all the quirks to it. You might want to look at the post I just put up about being sure to get the reports and data from Monitech to prepare for the hearing so you can see exactly what went on before and after the bad readings.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 15, 2012 10:41AM
How long was the time you got your letter to the time of the hearing? I hope everything goes well.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
March 14, 2012 12:15PM
Hello Aldo,

So glad to find this post and be following all the information given. I know you are not an attorney but I'm gathering advise and trying to figure out what to do. I was convicted of first DUI in November 2011. Level 5. Blew a .15. I was working in NC at the time. I live in GA. completed the drug class and received 508 certificate from DMV.

License suspended for 1 year and out of state community service. completed. Here's the kicker.....I go to Georgia to be a good person and do the right thing and turn in license. They told me my license CANCELLED. apparently, on the NDR list. I was hoping to get a LDP. They said I would have to satisfy NC requirements and then re-apply.

So, my question is, do I go ahead and get the interlock now. Does the time start for your one year, once you receive the devise. Or, do you know if I even have to have after my one year is up since I don't even live in NC?

Finally, I travel extensively and am fortunate that I don't have to have a car on some of my projects. But, that will change soon and I'll need to drive. The damned thing sounds terrible but need to make a living!

Yes, I had an attorney and is is a clown. Will not return my calls now and probably wants more money.

I appreciate any input from you and any of the other members out there!

Thanks so much!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
March 15, 2012 06:47AM
travelinggirl-

Your cirumstances are pretty complicated so I probably can't help you out much other than to say that you will probably need to get an LDP before having an interlock installed (be it in GA or NC). You'd definitely need an LDP to get "credit" for your interlock time in NC (and remember that interlocks log driving dates/times, so it would be unwise to get one installed before knowing you have official permission (LDP, etc.) to do so).

At least around here, DUI attorneys have massive caseloads and customer service suffers as a result, especially if you've already been through the court process. You might want to try to talk with one of the paralegals at the firm (if available). If not, I'd recommend at least consulting with a new lawyer to help you navigate the LDP/interlock process. There may be potential for you to get an interlock in GA to satisfy your NC requirements; I don't know.

Sorry for the lack on info-a lawyer is probably the best option in your situation.

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 08, 2012 07:40AM
Hey everyone,

Just read this thread and am encouraged by what I found. I have the device due to a first time offense. I had my first bi-monthly appointment today after incurring a 'fail' the first couple of weeks that I had the device. It showed up on the printed report that they handed me but I wasn't asked to fill out any non-compliance paperwork or a client response form. I hadn't incurred any other violations (rolling warns, other fails, etc.) in this time period.

I was pretty sure I would have to fill out the 'client response form' but the technician said nothing to me, just gave me a new appointment, a copy of the printout and I was on my way. I was curious to ask but didn't want to push anything, assuming that all was well. I have been dreading this appointment since the violation and am encouraged by what I read, that if you aren't asked to fill anything out then all is good. Does anybody have any news to the contrary?

It's unbelievable that there is absolutely no clarity on this issue and that threads like this must exist. I've accepted all of the difficulties from making the poor decision to drink and drive but this interlock is causing me great distress.

I know that mouthwash, perfumes/colognes, toothpastes, chewing gum, fruits and bread products can cause failures; anybody have anything else to add to the list?

I am going to start rinsing before every blow and would encourage everyone to do so if you aren't already. Some of the the tales of these rolling failures are frightening.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 09, 2012 06:40AM
RedSam-

I was in a similar position as you (1st time offense, a fail early in my year, etc.) as you probably know from my posts above, and at my first download I wasn't told of any violation or asked to fill out papers, etc., which seems to be the same as in your case. It's easy to say don't worry about it, but if you read the Monitech FAQ, it's pretty clear (to me at least) that if they do intend to report a violation that they'll ask you to provide an explanation in writing. I was told by an attorney that this non-compliance paperwork essentially functions as an affidavit for use by DMV.

Soooo....please try to relax! It's already stressful enough dealing the with consequences from the DUI without having to unnecessarily worry about an interlock violation that you didn't get (by the sound of things). Try to let it go. This is coming from a huge worryer so believe me, I know it's hard.

Long and short of any advice I have to give: if you do drink, buy a GOOD breathalyzer, not a $50 gimmick one at Advance Auto Parts or similar. Or, as Bliddy Boh has explained several times over, do the math and leave plenty of time to process alcohol before any unfortunate potential morning after fails (you'd have to drink a lot and stay up late to still a BAC in the morning). Don't eat or drink ANYTHING but water for at least 15, even 30 minutes before you anticipate driving/taking a test. Very important: carry water with you and rinse before every test. Also, regularly change mouth pieces-ask for a bunch at each download.

Yes, it sucks, but this is the situation you and me and everyone else got ourselves into. The year will go by fast. One huge benefit, at least for me, of having had the interlock is that there is no way in hell I'll drink and drive again. I'm not so sure that having the year suspension without the interlock requirement would have been as effective of a detterent for me, sadly.

Good luck and relax-it sounds like you are in the clear, so keep it up.

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 09, 2012 10:08AM
Does anyone have any info on an interlock system in Colorado. There appears to be 5 available, but how do you choose which one. After reading these threads, it appears none of them are worth a damn. If anyone has any input, I would be really appreciative.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 09, 2012 10:43AM
Bliddy Boh already replied to your question here (http://forums.motorists.org/read.php?2,2070).
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 02, 2013 06:16PM
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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 09, 2012 03:57PM
Thanks for the feedback. I was already encouraged by the contents of the thread but I guess was seeking out more reassurance or if anyone had any other scenarios.

I feel for anyone with the horror scenarios of a random fail. I remember in my DUI classes that it seemed like everyone but me got some fluke DUI (sleeping in car with keys, etc.) but I don't see why people would come in this thread just to make stuff up. I'll be so frustrated if I get a rolling warn/fail when I've done nothing wrong, guess I just have to stick to protocol and hope for the best. I have faith in my little black box though (I have the older model); I hadn't really been careful with food/drink until I read this thread and never had anything happen.

Good luck to everybody, DON'T ATTEMPT TO DRIVE IF YOU'RE STILL HUNGOVER!!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 10, 2012 06:47AM
Yes, of course, the "it's everybody's (law enforcement, etc.) fault but mine" attitude. I was struck by that at the group therapy sessions as well. I'm constantly entertained by the complete lack of willingness to take ownership of the DUI by some people. Oh well.

Don't worry about a random fail-it's tough to worry too much about something that hasn't happened yet. I got two (as described above), but ultimately they weren't indicated as violations. I would be as proactive as possible if you get one, though. I think that the tolerance for multiple offenders is much stricter than it is for first time offenders. That makes it really, really difficult for people who are honestly leading a more responsible life who get fails that aren't associated with drinking.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 25, 2012 03:50PM
Turf Cat, or anyone eles that can help..

Hello ,I recently got the interlock out on my car,

Here is the question,. I will still drink from time to time, this is why I bought a Backtrack S80 with Fuel Cell Sensors. The unit measures BAC to the .000. My question is does Monitech go beyod that on the reports or monitoring for example .0000?

I have received all passes and will never start my car if I have been drinking and did not blow a 0.000 on my Backtrack. This way I should never have a BAC reading nor a WARN message. It is my understanding that unless you have a WARN, you dont have anything to worry about correct? I would assume if my Backtrack is saying the .000 that the Interlock is reeading the same. I am also being smart about this as I am waiting along time to drive for example. I had 2 beers and waited 12 hours to start my car and received a Pass..


Also, I did try and start my car without blowing first 2 times! Stupid, but imnmedialty blew right after as it asked me to submit a breath test to be able to start. A force of habit from all years of drivin. I would assume this is not a violation becasue I blew right after and it said pass?

Bulldog
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 30, 2012 08:31AM
Bulldog-

Sorry, but I don't think anyone can answer that question (how many 0s the readings carry out to) but Monitech and/or DMV.

I would caution you about putting 100% faith in your breathalyzer (backtrack), especially if you're talking about the $60 or so one that you can get at auto parts stores and such. Even if it is a high quality one, the interlock might be more sensitive. It's best not to take chances.

What you're probably going through is the uncertainty inherent to having the device. I know it a HUGE drag, believe me. You've just got to soldier through, man. I had two false fails, one starting, one rolling. Ultimately, nothing became of them, even though I was very worried I'd get a violation.

The one rule seems to be that if you don't have to provide written explanation about a fail (read the thread for details), you're very likely okay. I have not heard about anyone getting a notice from DMV for a fail where they weren't asked to provide a statement at their download appointment.

Good luck with it.

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 30, 2012 12:00PM
AR,

Did your letter from the DMV state the following:

1 year Interlock

You must not drive a motor vehicle with an alcohol concentration greater than or equal to .004 for 3 years.

If you dig into that statement, it tells me that the DMV will not do anything to you unless those readings were .004?


Maybe im over analyzing it

I hate this
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 01, 2012 01:29PM
I had a high BAC first-time DUI so it appears we are under the same conditions from DMV, but I think you mean 0.04 not 0.004 (legal per se limit is typically 0.08).

The "passing" fails that jezaka posted scared the hell out of me, too. But I'm not sure anything can be done to ease your worries other than just being cautious and waiting a long time to drive if you drink. It sucks but that's the way it is. I was a nervous wreck throughout my time with the IID.

One thing to remember with jezaka is that indicated she was a multiple offender. Multiple offenders have a zero tolerance with alcohol-they can't have any in their system. Whereas first-time offenders (unless you're younger than 21) can. That's why I really feel bad for multiple offenders who have gotten their lives back together and are abiding by the law. Any equipment glitch is going to really potentially put them in a bad way with DMV, and that isn't fair. There's this expectation that the equipment is 100% accurate and it isn't, no machine is. I don't know what to think about honey buns and the like causing false positives, but I got two false positives and I don't know what caused them.

I think you are probably worrying too much about it, at the end of the day. There is a difference between a healthy respect and too much worry. Your time will go by quicker than you think. Just make sure you document any fails, etc. It will be all good.

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 08, 2012 05:35AM
OK, so i was in my driveway this morning..I blew into qt-1 and set it down.. The coard got jarred lose when i set it down and the alarm went off, I plued it back in and blew pass afterward, I called monitech, and they noted on the account,,

I read in maunal that this is a program viloation?

Is this true, i literally set the damn thing doen and the cord must have moved or something.. I had not been drinkingf so the pass was not an issue.

Will this be a program viloation? Freaking out about this becasue it was a total accident..

Dont want to have a hearing or anything...
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 09, 2012 07:57AM
I wouldn't worry about it. You were proactive about calling to report what happened and were smart to take (and pass) a subsequent test, which to me would make it clear to Monitech/DMV you were not trying to tamper with anything.

I know that it is very stressful and nerve-wracking, but you can't beat yourself up over every little (non)issue. Try to relax and not stress it too bad.

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 10, 2012 04:44AM
AR,

Thanks for the response.. I know I need to relax on this thing! It has got me totally out of my comfort..

I think as long as I get Passes and never a warn or a fail I should be fine...

When this happened the otherday, the car was not started, I was trying to start it.. I think it would be diferent If I weer driving and that happened. The siren went on, I think if I were driving my horn and everything would have went off..

I have been exttremely cautious if I have been drinnking waiting a ton of time (12 +) Hours and never not had a pass..
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 23, 2013 03:50PM
Hi Readytobedone -

I guess I can't know whether there would've been a different outcome if I hadn't told the truth about what happened. But there is no doubt that if you mention having consumed an alcoholic drink when you write the non-compliance report at Monitech you will have to say the same thing at your hearing. And my hearing officer told me that although he didn't like revoking my license over this incident, he had no choice because the law clearly states that I cannot have an alcoholic drink in my system and start my car. No explanations, excuses, apologies or character evidence I brought with me to the hearing mattered in the least. It was a done deal.

I hope everything works out okay for you. It really is horrible to be penalized with yet another year of no driving and then have to start all over again with Monitech, which is what happened to me.

Here is some information I found on the internet about how long it takes for alcohol to get out of your system that I found helpful. I'm copying and pasting it here in case it might help you or someone else -

Best of luck,
Gumby

One drink (12 oz beer, 1.25 oz 80 proof, or 4 oz wine) will raise your BAC approx 0.02. The human body will metabolize approx 0.015 per hour. These numbers are approximate, as everyone metabolizes alcohol at slightly different rates.

With regards to eating you need to understand how alcohol enters the bloodstream. Alcohol is absorbed, not digested. Approx 80% of the alcohol is absorbed through the lining of the small intestine. Approx 10-15% is absorbed through the stomach lining, and approx 5-10% is expelled through breath. With that said, when you consume food, the pyloric valve at the base of the stomach closes, to keep the undigested food in your stomach until it is completely digested. If you consume alcohol while the pyloric valve is closed (on a full stomach or with undigested food in the stomach) the alcohol just sits in the stomach where only 10-15% is being absorbed. Once the food is digested and the pyloric valve opens, you get a rush of alcohol into your small intestine, where 80% of it is absorbed into your bloodstream. Food does not keep you from getting drunk, it causes you to get drunk later.

How long it takes all of the alcohol to metabolize out of your system depends on how much alcohol is in your system at the highest point or when you stop consuming alcohol. If you get up to a 0.15 at your highest, and don't consume any alcohol once you get to that point, it will take approximately 10 hours for all of the alcohol to metabolize out of your system. This is why people who get themselves up to a very high level (0.25 or so) and stop drinking at last call (2am), are still WAY over the legal limit when they go to work at 9 am. If someone was at a 0.25 at 2am, they would only have metabolized approximately 0.11 worth of alcohol by the time they leave for work at 9am, thus leaving them somewhere around a 0.14, even though they might just feel "hungover".

Below is a guide to help you calculate when you should stop drinking if you are driving the following day.
• 4% beers and ciders - Average strength drinks like Fosters and Guinness are two and half hour pints. Each pint takes at least two and half hours to leave your blood stream from when you stop drinking. Therefore if you have four pints and stop drinking at midnight, you are not safe to drive until after 11am the next day.
• 5.5% beers and ciders - Stronger drinks like Stella, Kronenberg and Strongbow are three hour pints. Drink four pints of Stella and you can't drive for at least 13 hours from finishing your last pint. So if you call it a night at midnight you are not safe until after 1pm the next day.
• 5% bottles – 330ml bottles of Becks, Bud, Stella, or 275ml bottles of WDK, Smirnof Ice are two hour bottles. Drink six of these up till midnight and you are not safe until after 1pm the next day.
• Wine - One 250ml glass of 13% wine is a three and a half hour drink. Drink a bottle of it and you'll need to leave 11 hours before driving or 11am if you stop at midnight.
• Spirits - A double shot of a spirit is a three hour drink. Drink three of these and you will need to leave 10 hours before driving, meaning that if you finish drinking at 11pm you are not safe to drive until 9am the next day.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 30, 2012 12:09PM
AR,

One other thing I was concerned about. Being that it does not say warn unless you are .02, what happens if I was say .005 and started with a pass then blew a .005 on a rolling restart?

This string of threads is helpful but also making me extremely paranoid. I have waited at least 12 hours after drinking , and about 24 hours if I had more than usual, ie 10 beers. I have never gottena warn, but the comments from jeezekaon the .002 pass sacres the hell out of me.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
September 25, 2012 03:53PM
Anyones help is appreciated?
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 03, 2012 09:10AM
Bull Dog when i had my first dwi my limit was .02 , i believe its still the same , Dont worry about turning key and trying to start vehicle its not a fail or violation just showes up on paper work,if you read the post take heed and keep all you paperwork from monitec and if you do have any issue make noted on what happened and when and why ( ie food mouthwash,etc), the mane reason for the machines is two fold 1 making sure you dont drink and drive 2 as behvure modification about drinking . getting a fail during a rolling test will be the worst one ,
relax and follow thhe rules if you get false reading call Monitec and have unit recalibrated and make notes just to be safe these things are a pain in the a$$ but after 3 years with one im glad its over with i havent drank sence before i went to court.6 years ago.
Always try to be nice to the people at monited they have a rough job and people dont realise that there the ones got them selves in this mess .
let me know if you need any more help dave
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 14, 2012 08:09AM
Hi everyone,

I'm freaking out right now, and the anxiety is killing me.

I'm about half-way through with my year of having the monitech device installed on my car, and have had no problems until now. Last night my dad had some alcohol to drink and for some reason felt compelled to see what would happen if he blew into the device, since he knew my pin number (apparently he wanted to make sure it worked). Of course on the first try, he got a "FAIL", bu luckily didn't blow the second time and instead just went to bed, satisfied. I called Monitech this morning and explained what happened after my dad told me and the representative on the phone helped me override the "Service appointment in 2 days" code that resulted from the fail. I'll apparently have to spend an extra $35 at the next appointment, but I'm not too worried about that.

I'm freaking out about what is going to happen after that. What are the chances that I'll need to attend a hearing? This is my first, and will be my only, violation since having it installed, and I don't even drink anymore, so I'd hate for this to affect me negatively.

Please help. Thank you.



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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 15, 2012 05:30AM
unevenstructure,if your dad blew a fail then you have a violation and it is very serious,as a word of caution never let another person blow in your unit,my son had the same unit and his brother did as your dad did,theres no way to get around the 35.00, i also have had one and i was told its best that you dont even allow any one drinking in your vehicle . these units are sensative to surounding air and can pic up stuf like windshield solvent and other fums,if you dont here from dmv then dont worry ,if you do the take your dad to the hearing ,dmv usually dosent believe the some one else blew story,with out a wintess ,and you can lose your license quick good luck Dave
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
October 15, 2012 08:56AM
Thanks, uncledave.

I haven't let my dad drive my car since I've had the device put on, and specifically told him not to try. While I was sleeping, he decided to blow into the device to test if it worked or something (he was drunk, so his reasoning is a bit wobbly). He has seen me operate the vehicle though, so that's how he knew what to do. He didn't know the consequence could be so intense.

He's agreed to come to the hearing with me, if they send me a letter, and testify on my behalf for the fail. I'm also hoping my progress as a human since my arrest will help my case. I haven't drank any alcohol since the arrest, I've lost 60 lb of fat and regained it in muscle, I'm almost finished with a college degree (which I need my car so I can drive to school) and I just applied for a transfer to UNC, and I'm about to turn in my forms to become a substitute teacher, and I've started going to counseling. I like to think that's a pretty good case, but I'm still really scared.

I wasn't even able to eat yesterday.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
November 30, 2012 09:27PM
I recently recieved a letter from DMV Raleigh.......resulting from a rolling Warning.....I passed my intial start up test and blew a warning on a rolling test was not prompted to do a restart....Ive never had a rolling warn or a warn of any kind....but have low BAC's show up on my report....now mind you I have had my IIL on my vehicle for 5 and a half years on my way to 7....I called B.Powers in Charlotte and they gave me a court date ....After blowing the warn I drove to Monitech 10 mins from where I was ...but the tech was not there ....shut my truck offf during that time and restarted and blew a pass...and passed again on the way home....Im on a 0.00 ....but when recieved a report at my at my appointment...the warn said .026....Im jus not sure if I should take a lawyer to the hearing...and do not understand why I blew a warning on mt QT.......Puzzled
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 09, 2013 02:10PM
Ok - So I recently got my interlock machine uninstalled out of my car back in November. Called the DMV about a week later and they said everything was good to go. I had the interlock installed for a 1 year time period and did get some violations during my time with the machine, but never received any sort of letters or notices from the DMV/Monitech. A couple days ago I received that letter saying that my license had been suspended for a year due to violation of GS 20-19 c3 or whatever. I have called in and sent in for a hearing, but just find this rediculous that I have already had my machine taken off and gotten my full license back, but now just hear of a violation? I am now living outside of NC for a job, and really need to have a car in order to work. Also found this below in the GS 20-19, does anyone have any clarifications on this? This is more of just a venting email, but any ideas/suggestions would greatly be appreciated.

This is under c3 of 20-19
A law enforcement officer who has reasonable grounds to believe that a person has violated a restriction placed on the person's drivers license shall complete an affidavit pursuant to Gen. Stat. 20-16.2(c1). On the basis of information reported pursuant to Gen. Stat. 20-16.2, the Division shall revoke the drivers license of any person who violates a condition of reinstatement imposed under this subsection. An alcohol concentration report from an ignition interlock system shall not be used as the basis for revocation under this subsection. A violation of a restriction imposed under this subsection or the willful refusal to submit to a chemical analysis shall result in a one-year revocation. If the period of revocation was imposed pursuant to subsection (d) or (e), or Gen. Stat. 20-138.5(d), any remaining period of the original revocation, prior to its reduction, shall be reinstated and the one-year revocation begins after all other periods of revocation have terminated.

Thanks
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 09, 2013 06:32PM
ts2187-

Sorry to hear about your situation. It would be helpful if you could include more specific information-when did you first hear about your violations (download appointments?), what were the nature of the violations, etc. As to the GS language you provided, your best bet is going to be to consult with an attorney as you probably know, but perhaps being proactive will help you in your hearing. Please shed some more light on your circumstances as you're willing and perhaps people who have been in a similar spot can help.

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 10, 2013 02:11PM
Thanks for the quick response. The job that I was working for most of the time that I had the machine required me to travel in the car alot. There were some instances when I got a fail reading, which was due to drinking coffee/sodas etc. Once the 5 minutes were up it would be fine. I also had a couple of fails from having some drinks from the night before (I thought I was fine and had given it enough time) I knew of the incidents when I would take the car in to get the reading every 2 months, but had no idea that these violations were a big deal nor was I ever contacted by the DMV or Monitech by mail to say that I had violations. Everything seemed fine when I got the machine out of my car, and I even followed up with the DMV a week later to make sure everything was good to go, and it was. Just seems very odd to me that I was able to get my license back, never got any sort of warning mail or mail during the whole year that I had the machine, and then 3 months after I get it out I get a mailing from them saying my license is suspended. I feel that enough has been suffered during this 3 year period since I made the mistake and have paid the penalty. I really need a car for my job and to make a living, and just feel this is rediculous.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 13, 2013 10:25AM
ts2187-

I don't have too much to add other than what I posted above. If you had more than one violation reported to DMV by Monitech, it stands to reason that you are going to have to be on your A-game for the hearing since (as you know by now) DMV takes violations seriously. I'd highly recommend consulting with an attorney in your situation.

Good luck with it-

AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 06, 2013 05:25PM
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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 28, 2013 05:26PM
I've had my interlock since the end of August. Right now I have limited driving privileges to and from work only. Saturday night I went out and had some drinks. The next morning around noon I attempted to start my car and got my first fail. I was required to take another five minutes later and failed. I did not attempt any more that day. I had to fill out paperwork at monitech today and the tech said in his opinion it looked better for me that I didn't keep trying to start my car and left it alone until the next day. I'm sooo worried about what the outcome from DMV could be!!! Any thought? I haven't had any other fails or warnings whatsoever.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
January 29, 2013 05:02AM
Bdubb1107-

First of all, thank you for clearly explaining what happened in your situation-it makes it much easier for people to help you out in your situation. The only thing that anyone can tell you with certainty is that you may have a hearing with DMV about the fails. If you are a first-time offender, that will probably help your cause considerably. That said, you were drinking, and I'm not sure how that will be received by a hearing officer. I would highly recommend calling a lawyer if you do indeed get a notice from DMV. They will know the best course of action/line of reasoning to pursue. Remember though you haven't gotten a notice yet (and there is no guarantee that you will-keep that in mind), so it's best not to stress over something that might not happen. Keep us posted and good luck with it.

-AR
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 20, 2013 04:30PM
bdubb the dmv doesn't play. NC is probably the strictest state in the nation and also has some of the harshest penalties. If you get even one fail you are screwed
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 01, 2013 06:14PM
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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 05, 2013 12:23PM
Jbodhi,

I feel your pain, I dont understand how anybody is going to survive these new levels of .004 and .009
This is absurd and there is no way this is legal. Not drinking completely eliminates the reading obviously, but everyday products we use and food we eat IS going to set this thing off. Im not trying to get screwed by eating a subway sandwich because of the bread having yeast in it, and pizza is out, shampoos have to be organic, soaps...it is endless on how many violations are about to happen...for real
I dont know how these hearing officers are going to keep up with the amount of violations...other than taking your license
Ive had mine for a year and a half out of three and went in and made me sign an agreement to the new levels....BS
I am literally scared to drive the damn thing, something has to be done about this, I can only hope people read this and action is taken.
Good luck everyone and hold on to your wallets cause its gonna be a bumpy ride....smh
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
February 08, 2013 05:22PM
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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 21, 2013 06:53AM
Hey everyone -

I had the Monitech device put on my car in February of 2013. In early April, I went to the Whole Foods Market for lunch and chose a drink called Kombucha from the iced tea section of the cooler. On the front side of the bottle label it says "probiotics plus enzymes plus detoxifiers." Sounded healthy to me. I only took 3 sips of the drink while eating my lunch and went back to my car. When I blew into the device it gave me a FAIL and said that I had to blow into it again in 5 minutes. I was really freaked out because I didn't have any water to rinse with in my car or anything else to drink but the Kombucha drink. Meanwhile, I was looking all over the label on the Kombucha bottle and saw in small print that it said "Due to the natural fermentation process, this produce may contain a trace amount of alcohol." Damn, there it was on the label and I didn't see it.

When I blew into the device again after the 5 minutes went by, I got a PASS. I am really hoping that the point of making someone blow into the device again after 5 minutes has gone by is to determine the difference between someone having consumed an alcoholic drink and someone who accidentally had something like mouthwash or some food product with a trace amount of alcohol in their mouth. Because if I lose my license over this I'm probably going to lose my mind and I can't prove that it was this innocent food product that caused a FAIL.

To make matters worse, yesterday I got take-out from a Taco Bell and I ordered a Cherry Limeade. No problem getting to the Taco Bell from my house but as I was leaving, this happened. Two sips of the Cherry Limeade while I was waiting for my order and the Monitech device gave me a WARNING, which was followed by a PASS when I blew 5 minutes later.

So maybe it's too late for me but here's my advice to other people - always bring a bottle of water with you when you leave your house. Wait at least 5 minutes after drinking anything but water or eating anything at all before you blow into the device because who knows what will set it off.

It has been almost 7 years now since I got a DUI and I am so sick of this horrible mistake continuing to screw up my life. Initially, I lost my license for 4 years and I deserved that. Then I had to have the Monitech device on my car for a 3 year period, which I thought was pretty extreme. In the middle of serving my Monitech time, I screwed up and had a 5% beer and only waited 2 hours before trying to start my car. It measured a .012 and I lost my license for another year because I told the truth about what happened. Now I am finally driving again and trying so hard to not do anything that will ever get me into trouble again. And this Kombucha and cherry limeade thing happens. So stupid.

I don't understand why they have to try to measure such a ridiculously small amount of alcohol that ordinary food products will give you a failure, but they do.

Best of luck to everyone,
Gumby
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 22, 2013 10:29AM
Gumby,

It seems like you have been in a similar situation as me before. I got a dui and lost my license for 4 years, appealed and got my license early after 3 yrs while being required to have the monitech for 3 years. I am currently halfway through and am stressing out about getting a "Fail" message. In your post you said "It measured a .012 and I lost my license for another year because I told the truth about what happened." Do you think if you had said you used mouthwash right before or something similar, then there would have been a different outcome?

Thanks
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 21, 2013 02:45PM
what all kinds of info are included in the detailed reports you can request?
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 22, 2013 04:52AM
When they see a fail or a warning on your record you have to fill out a non-compliance report where you can write down the details of what happened during the incident. Hoping that will be enough for me to avoid receiving a notice for a hearing from the DMV. Maybe they are flooded with thousands of similar incidents where people have fails or warnings from food products and then blow a passing level 5 minutes later. Monitech no longer wants to be contacted by people after incidents like these happen - you're supposed to wait until your next appointment to report the details of what happened.

I think the report they give you shows the amount of alcohol the device registered at the time an incident happened, but I'm not sure about that.

Definitely, from now on, I'm going to wait more than 5 minutes after eating or drinking anything other than water before I try to start my car and hope that will solve this kind of problem.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 22, 2013 10:03AM
As everyone knows, the new warn/fail levels have been causing lots of problems. For example, I've had the device for a little over 1.5 years and never had a problem until drinking a monster energy drink and taking a rolling test, "Warn." This happened twice over about a week and a half and when I realized it was the energy drink I stopped drinking them while I'm driving.

However, this weekend I had some drinks sat. night and woke up early to go fishing with a buddy. Apparently there was still a trace of alcohol left because I received my first "Fail." I waited for two hours and tried again thinking that there was no way there was anything left..."Fail." I waited 4.5hrs and passed but didn't drive anywhere, just wanted to get a "Pass." My question is what do I do later this week when I go in to get the device calibrated? What do I tell them? Before they changed it to the new levels I had had drinks the night before and never had a problem.

I was given a code, which according to the person who scheduled my appointment, means "High Fail." She couldn't tell me the difference between "Fail" and "High Fail" so I have no idea what level the device recorded other than it was at least a .009. Am I guaranteed to lose my driving priviledges or is there a chance I can get out of this? I've read through a lot of these posts and everyone seems very helpful. Thanks for any input you have.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 23, 2013 04:18PM
Hi Readytobedone -

Tried to reply to you but something went wrong and it entered my post way up above this one in the chain of replies so I'm reposting it here.

I guess I can't know whether there would've been a different outcome if I hadn't told the truth about what happened. But there is no doubt that if you mention having consumed an alcoholic drink when you write the non-compliance report at Monitech you will have to say the same thing at your hearing. And my hearing officer told me that although he didn't like revoking my license over this incident, he had no choice because the law clearly states that I cannot have an alcoholic drink in my system and start my car. No explanations, excuses, apologies or character evidence I brought with me to the hearing mattered in the least. It was a done deal as soon as they'd heard that I'd had a beer. It's not like they expect you to completely quit drinking but it is like they expect you to make sure there is no alcohol in your system when you start your car. I thought about buying a breathalyzer but feel like there's no point because how could you know that it would be calibrated the same as the Monitech one and when it's measuring .004 the only way to be sure is to allow more time than you know it takes for everything to be out of your system. And when it comes to ordinary foods and drinks that set it off, it only takes 5 minutes for it to get out of your system but when you've consumed an alcoholic drink, it takes a surprising amount of time to clear your system.

Here is some information I found on the internet about how long it takes for alcohol to get out of your system that I found helpful. I'm copying and pasting it here in case it might help you or someone else -

Best of luck,
Gumby

One drink (12 oz beer, 1.25 oz 80 proof, or 4 oz wine) will raise your BAC approx 0.02. The human body will metabolize approx 0.015 per hour. These numbers are approximate, as everyone metabolizes alcohol at slightly different rates.

With regards to eating you need to understand how alcohol enters the bloodstream. Alcohol is absorbed, not digested. Approx 80% of the alcohol is absorbed through the lining of the small intestine. Approx 10-15% is absorbed through the stomach lining, and approx 5-10% is expelled through breath. With that said, when you consume food, the pyloric valve at the base of the stomach closes, to keep the undigested food in your stomach until it is completely digested. If you consume alcohol while the pyloric valve is closed (on a full stomach or with undigested food in the stomach) the alcohol just sits in the stomach where only 10-15% is being absorbed. Once the food is digested and the pyloric valve opens, you get a rush of alcohol into your small intestine, where 80% of it is absorbed into your bloodstream. Food does not keep you from getting drunk, it causes you to get drunk later.

How long it takes all of the alcohol to metabolize out of your system depends on how much alcohol is in your system at the highest point or when you stop consuming alcohol. If you get up to a 0.15 at your highest, and don't consume any alcohol once you get to that point, it will take approximately 10 hours for all of the alcohol to metabolize out of your system. This is why people who get themselves up to a very high level (0.25 or so) and stop drinking at last call (2am), are still WAY over the legal limit when they go to work at 9 am. If someone was at a 0.25 at 2am, they would only have metabolized approximately 0.11 worth of alcohol by the time they leave for work at 9am, thus leaving them somewhere around a 0.14, even though they might just feel "hungover".

Below is a guide to help you calculate when you should stop drinking if you are driving the following day.
• 4% beers and ciders - Average strength drinks like Fosters and Guinness are two and half hour pints. Each pint takes at least two and half hours to leave your blood stream from when you stop drinking. Therefore if you have four pints and stop drinking at midnight, you are not safe to drive until after 11am the next day.
• 5.5% beers and ciders - Stronger drinks like Stella, Kronenberg and Strongbow are three hour pints. Drink four pints of Stella and you can't drive for at least 13 hours from finishing your last pint. So if you call it a night at midnight you are not safe until after 1pm the next day.
• 5% bottles – 330ml bottles of Becks, Bud, Stella, or 275ml bottles of WDK, Smirnof Ice are two hour bottles. Drink six of these up till midnight and you are not safe until after 1pm the next day.
• Wine - One 250ml glass of 13% wine is a three and a half hour drink. Drink a bottle of it and you'll need to leave 11 hours before driving or 11am if you stop at midnight.
• Spirits - A double shot of a spirit is a three hour drink. Drink three of these and you will need to leave 10 hours before driving, meaning that if you finish drinking at 11pm you are not safe to drive until 9am the next day.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 23, 2013 07:46PM
gumby, you were on a .00 restriction or a .04? Did they just suspend your privilege until the original date or did they add time to it?
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 24, 2013 01:15PM
Hi Suburu -

I was and still am on a 0.00 restriction. That restriction will be in effect until February of 2016. They revoked my license for a year in February of 2012 over the incident I described about drinking a beer and only waiting 2 hours, thinking that was enough time, and starting my car. And they told me that I would be starting all over with Monitech in 2013 and have another 3 year period of the machine being required on my car. But when I got my driver's license, on the back, the restriction for 0.00 BAC lasts until 2016 but I am only required to have the Monitech device for 1 year this time, thank God. I will never drink and drive again but I'll be really glad when I don't have to deal with a Monitech device and all its quirks.

Gumby
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 25, 2013 06:53PM
I've read that the devices record your hum so they can tell if someone else blew in it, they can calculate the gps to figure whether it was in the car or outside the car, etc.... basically no way around it. A lawyer told me they can't tell who blows in it that's why they have an add on camera....so I don't know what to believe
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 26, 2013 05:49AM
I have the new interlock ignition device, the one that talks. I have had the old one also which I failed a couple of times last year due to alcohol and had my device and license revoked for 3 months. Since having it reinstalled 5 months ago I have had no problems until 4 weeks ago. I am about 3 1/2 months pregnant and have hypoglycemia and it seems every time i eat bread or anything like that (hushpuppies, tortillas, ect.) even if it has been 10 minutes since I have eaten these things and have drank 2 cups of water I get a fail and then 5 mins later after blowing again I get a pass. I am hoping due to the fact im pregnant and the fact that I get a pass almost immediately after failing it will be ok???? help!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
April 28, 2013 02:27PM
Hello Emily -

If I were you I would ask your doctor for a note or some kind of document indicating that you have hypoglycemia. And then I would print out a copy of the article at this link and take it with you to your next Monitech appointment and, if you get a notice of a hearing from the DMV I would take the doctor's note and this article with you. [www2.potsdam.edu]

I will eventually be finding out what happens when you get a false positive on the Monitech device and whether or not you end up having a DMV hearing over it because it has happened to me twice. But my next appointment at Monitech is not happening until May 29 and then I suppose I could get a notice of a hearing from the DMV anytime within the following couple of months requesting a hearing. Unless this has been happening to so many people and so frequently that the DMV is not doing hearings for people who had a Fail or a Warning and then blew a pass 5 minutes later.

Try not to worry - you have a legitimate reason for what happened.

Best of luck,
Gumby
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 04, 2013 09:14AM
Gumby-

Thank you so much for your response. The information that you provided to me is much appreciated! It eased my mind ALOT, I was so stressed before and that is the last thing I need while Im pregnant & It totally explains what has been happening with the false fails. I go in for my appointment this coming up Monday, so we will see what happens. Thanks again I will keep you posted!

Emily Bush
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 11, 2013 06:13AM
Emily

Pay attention to the time. If it's 10 mins to a fail, and 5 more to a pass -- then start leaving 15 mins between eating and testing.

If you find that works, and start doing it, and tell the court, they will be even more understanding. After all, you've stopped the problem and used the obvious solution instead of excuses.

If 15 mins doesn't work, what does? If nothing does, then the letter and explanation will of course be essential but they should help a lot. Even if waiting longer works, it'd still be very good to get the letter on record for whatever future event happens.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 16, 2013 04:18PM
good luck

has anyone had their license revoked for a fail and then passed the 5 minute retest?
has anyone had their license revoked or a hearing without filling out the non compliance form at their visit?

gumby did you fill out a form at your appointment before they revoked your license?
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
May 27, 2013 12:59PM
Yes, I did fill out a non-compliance form at Monitech and then a couple of months later I got a notice from the DMV telling me my license would be suspended and I had the option of having a hearing first. The hearing was only a formality because they'd already decided to suspend my license for a year based on what I'd written on the non-compliance report at Monitech.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
June 24, 2013 06:39AM
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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
June 29, 2013 08:29AM
First, sorry if any of this has been addressed in previous posts, but it's quite confusing and I'm not sure how much of the previous posts actually are relevant to my question.
My alcoholic partner lost his license in NC and had the Monitech installed September of 2012. He's had 5 lockouts where you have to pay $35, so I looked at the last slip he brought home and the stats are as follows:
Faults 7
Vehicle Power 4
Lockouts 5
Breath 40
Violations 9
Illegal driving 0

Also, this was the first time he'd lost the NC license for DWI, but he blew a .20.

I don't know what all this means, and he really doesn't discuss this with me.
Long story short, he is supposed to get his license back in July. The device doesn't come off til Sept.
From your experience, what are the odds he will get his license back (in a couple weeks) with the above record?
I would like to see him assigned a parole officer who would do random checks at home, and even have the device remain on the car indefinitely if it keeps him off the booze. I don't know what a reasonable expectation from DMV and the courts would be. sad smiley
Any input would be greatly appreciated.



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Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
July 10, 2013 10:56AM
Hey all,

Just wanted to give an update to my situation.

I seemed to be in the same boat as Aldo Raine, the original poster. One 'fail' before starting the car way back in June of 2012, about two weeks after getting the device on.

I never filled out a non compliance report at my subsequent appointment and had no other infractions throughout my time with the device. It came off June 19.

Good luck to everyone with the device. It led me to quit drinking, as I hated the stress of 'has it been enough time', etc.

BE EXTRA CAUTIOUS now that they dropped the limits even more.
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
July 23, 2013 11:00AM
Hi everyone, ok so here is my situation I am a stay at home dad and yesterday around 530pm I get into my car to go to the grocery store with my 2 kids and I blow into my LJ-1 and it registers a fail. Now mind you I haven't had any alcohol but I did have my medication in my mouth that I have to put under my tongue and let it desolve. I freaked out and mmediately called Monitech and they scheduled me for a calibration today. I was scared to blow in it again once the lock out was over but I did anyway and it passed and so I went to the store and on the way I got a rolling blow that I passed as well. I guess my question is am I gonna loose my license over this never had a warn or fail before this and I have had it on my car for about 2 yrs. if anybody has any help it would be greatly appreciated!!
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
July 25, 2013 03:09PM
Hello Uknow55 -

I had an incident where I got a fail and lockout after drinking a few sips of a fermented soft drink from a health food store that I didn't know had a trace amount of alcohol in it. When I blew into the device 5 minutes later I got a pass. At my next Monitech appointment I was told not to worry and that I had no non-compliance issues. They are probably having a lot of problems with false positives since they lowered the BAC amount to .004 for a fail. What the guy at Monitech told me was that they can tell when someone gets a pass 5 minutes after getting a fail that it was not alcohol. But they do charge an extra $35 when that happens, for whatever reason, because they can. Anyhow, I think from what you said that you will be okay because you got a pass so quickly after the fail that they will know it was not alcohol-related.

A helpful thing the guy told me is to always carry a bottle of water in the car with you and rinse your mouth with water every single time before you blow into the device. This has worked for me.

But today I was prescribed an antihistamine by my doctor and I am afraid to take it for fear it will set off the device. If anyone knows anything about that, please let me know. I noticed that antihistamines are listed on the card that Monitech hands out now as something that might set off the device but I can't find anything out about this by searching on the internet. Doing anything that will prevent me from getting through my remaining 6 months of having this device in my car is a nightmare to me. Not worth it, even though I need the medication.

Best of luck to everyone,

Gumby
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 11, 2013 06:20AM
Gumby - call Monitech with your question on antihistamine. Also maybe you can submit the perscription or doctor's note BEFORE using the med. So it's already on record, if you do later have problems.

If it's for allergies, there are a variety of antihistamines, and maybe there's one that works for you that doesn't have any triggers in it. (Such as the handheld sprays.)
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 13, 2013 05:54PM
I was at work today and I was playing my XM radio in my truck all day. Well I went to start my truck for a bit so I could recharge the battery. I left my truck running got distracted and forgot all about it. I heard a loud alarm going off in my truck I ran down the ladder got in the truck and it was telling me to turn off the ignition, so I did and then it made me take another test, so I did. I had to pay a service fee today. I was just wondering if I will have any problems with the DMV for this?
Re: sequence of events with Monitech violation (NC)?
August 14, 2013 07:42PM
Highly confused ... went to my first monitor appt and the monitor report was not explained..I'm in NC .. Can someone explain what violations mean ?? And lockouts?? I had one Fail which locked me out for 5 minutes I had not had any alcoholic beverages so I retested and passed that was my only lockout to my knowledge but report states 5 ??



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